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Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

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After >30 years as a professional programmer I have finally learnt to touch type. While watching TV with the family I have been practising on typing programs. I am still fighting old habits and muscle memory, but I am getting there.

I still haven’t learned to touch type even though I’m in my 30’s and a professional software engineer. Other than people making fun of me, I don’t see the point. Programming has so many symbols and it’s not like I’m limited by my typing speed as far as I can tell. And for most non-programming text entry I’m on a phone nowadays, so touch typing skill is moot.

What would you say is the advantage to learning to touch type at this point? Has it been particularly helpful in some way?

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

#53

After >30 years as a professional programmer I have finally learnt to touch type. While watching TV with the family I have been practising on typing programs. I am still fighting old habits and muscle memory, but I am getting there.

I still haven’t learned to touch type even though I’m in my 30’s and a professional software engineer. Other than people making fun of me, I don’t see the point. Programming has so many symbols and it’s not like I’m limited by my typing speed as far as I can tell. And for most non-programming text entry I’m on a phone nowadays, so touch typing skill is moot. What would you say is the advantage to learning to touch ty…

It is true that programming involves a lot of symbols, so touch typing doesn't make as much difference for programming as it does for, say, typing a novel. But spending more time looking at the screen, not the keyboard helps. And even a few percent improvement in productivity adds up over time.

Also, even as a programmer, you are probably writing quite a lot of prose in the form of documentation, emails etc.

I hardly ever do any text entry on my phone.

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

#54
A few things I have done or are in progress: Changing my preferred technology stack from debian(linux)/java/scala to openbsd/rust, and adding sqlite to my postgresql use. I'm becoming (I think) a better husband & person generally than I used to be (life is about learning, in part).

And a big, very hard one: learning to live (and be a better person) happily and with (a new kind of) balance with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome -- big enforced lifestyle changes there. (Very hopefully I will learn all the lessons I should--if not it would be a major lost opportunity.) My doctor (world-class specialist) says they see a lot of suicides in the field (though to be clear, that is not a plan, threat, nor persistent thought of mine). Life is challenging and good, and I am grateful for very many things.

Edits: My learning style seems generally like sheer persistence, with specifics depending on the subject, often finding the basic/intro materials and working them into my daily/weekly routine somewhere, maybe a few relaxing intro videos or articles on a subject while resting.

Also Esperanto, and improving my limited Russian, with some Soviet movies with English subtitles, and reading the side-by-side text of the Book of Mormon in Russ. & English (it has the Russ. accents marked, to reduce the need to look up words--there is no rule for emphasis like there is in Spanish or Esperanto); the AnkiDroid app helps a lot. I learned to ride a unicycle after 40, not to a high level, but it was still a thrill--every time I could just get on and go down the street was a rush. A talented nephew ignored my "experienced" advice and learned unicycling much faster and better than I, on a 26-inch wheel even. (As you'd guess, there are some people on youtube with amazing skills, like "mountain unicycling" or freewheeling (no pedals) fast downhill.)

For education: If someone is seeking economical, high-quality, online university education (from start to Master's), BYU Pathway Worldwide and/or Western Governors University are impressive options, even if one needs to, for example, learn English and/or study skills in an inexpensive intro program. I and others have commented more about them in prior discussions, w/ more info in wikipedia.

And there are so many more things to learn in the future. I'd love to have some good musical improvisation & sightreading skills; wow.

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

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IMO, age is not a problem but time management and responsibilities as others have mentioned. If you are raising kids or taking care of elder people, but you have poor management skills, or maybe you're just overwhelmed... then it's going to be problem to learn something, even if it's improving your knowledge in something you're already familiar with.

It’s not just that, though it plays a large part. As I get older, my brain is more aggressive about not wanting to learn cruft even though my conscious brain tells me it would be to my advantage. And it does this by being less interested in so many things. When I see yet another framework, or language, or tweak it’s just a shrug. It has to be truly novel for me to get excited; but the upside is that some tweak that b…

Maybe part of that with age is simply that we are learning better to distinguish what has more worth, from the passing ephemera.

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

#56

I'm 46. I just started taking Salsa dancing lessons. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHtpVk2BL6_/

Good luck!

I'd like to share with you a couple things. I still love Salsa even though I stopped actively going to Salsa clubs a few years ago (like many things in life, activities will fade in interest/fade back in). As a note, most of the social dancing advice applies to a world without covid dangers.

1) Keep on going. You can take a break though.

One of my favorite articles from "The Unlikely Salsero" (archived copy) https://web.archive.org/web/20080316160328/http://www.unlike...

2) Footwork is everything. One of the mistakes beginners make is that when they do their basic step, they take "too big" of steps. This is acceptable when you are a beginner. However, when you start doing more complicated footwork/leading that is required by patterns, larger than needed steps can easily break the precise on-beat timing needed. Please try to focus on small steps.

3) Leading properly requires signaling. Something like a simple squeeze of the hand if you want your follower to stop. Also, prepping the follower for their turn by doing a very, very slight wind up.

4) Listen to Salsa music more if you are not already. The key feature of Salsa music is that breaks happen on the 8/12/16 bar of the normal song. If you can anticipate the breaks by counting in your head silently while dancing, this will make the difference in your lead from above-average to performance. I recommend Gilbert Santa Rosa. They are more laid back then the frenetic Salsa bands.

5) If you are just starting out, asking a follower to dance is one of the most intimidating things you can do. You will get rejected. Don't take it personally. When you get better, you still will be rejected. In a group class at a club, take note of the followers in the class (you usually rotate) who seem enthusiastic. Ask them to dance if you see them still around.

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

#57

You should also ask if the people who learned new skills were raising kids. I have a feeling that is the dominant confounding variable.

It’s definitely harder with kids, but I’ve actually used my kids as a catalyst for learning. There are loads of hobbies and activities I’ve taken up just as a way to expose them to the world.

Like what? Share some ideas, please.

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

#59
Inline roller at 41 in club during 2 years. I still use them regularly (I am 51). Indoor climbing at 45. I was slightly too old and too heavy. Not a real success, but an interesting experience. Maybe I will try again. Main motivation was to accompany my children. Currently confined in the apartment, I train jumping rope.

Re: Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s definitely harder with kids, but I’ve actually used my kids as a catalyst for learning. There are loads of hobbies and activities I’ve taken up just as a way to expose them to the world.

Like what? Share some ideas, please.

Learning swimming at 38 because I want to swim with my kids who can swim well already
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