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The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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Have you experienced student life at a large public research university recently? The well-documented trends of administrative bloat, publish-or-perish, exploitation of adjuncts and TAs for cheap labor, obsession with luxury campus amenities, etc etc. have all slowly degraded this "idealized" version of academia that many people have in mind (assuming such a thing ever existed in the first place). I run into the same…

I have not studied as an undergrad at a large institution, but I have taught at one, and I have taught as a prof at teaching-only institute. There is very little difference in the quality of teaching. Guess what, when teaching only staff is asked to teach 6 courses in an year, they teach the same as a research prof who spends half their time in research and half their time teaching 3 courses. I think there are many t…

I think we are mostly on the same page then :)

> Guess what, when teaching only staff is asked to teach 6 courses in an year, they teach the same as a research prof who spends half their time in research and half their time teaching 3 courses. > ... > The problem is capitalism, and money-optimizations being the final decision maker rather than quality of teaching or research (which is also much worse than 50 years ago). > ... > You need more money from the state to go into education.

Absolutely, agreed on all points. Find people who are passionate about education and give them the time and resources to do it well. Build a culture of learning, mentorship, and open discussion. Let students and teaching faculty mingle as much as possible with research faculty while still keeping priorities straight.

Sure, in an ideal world, every student would get one-on-one tutoring from a brilliant researcher. But this doesn't scale well, and isn't necessarily a great use of the researcher's time. Teaching-only faculty are more than good enough until the student approaches the research level.

> I don't agree at all with lecture recordings. As much as you want people in society learning, you also want a lot of people in society learning to teach.

Oh I agree, perhaps I misrepresented myself. I'm not suggesting we replace traditional lectures with a big movie screen that plays pre-recorded lectures.

However, I think the current way of doing things -- where a professor inherits some slides she didn't create herself and reads them off in front of the class with no preparation whatsoever -- isn't the best either. This just goes back to finding passionate teachers and giving them the resources they need to be successful.

I do think pre-recorded lectures have their place alongside traditional textbooks, lecture notes, etc.. One downside of traditional lectures is that lecturers get very little feedback about their teaching style, and it's difficult to diagnose how students are really doing.

A handful of courses in my undergrad math program were run in an "Inquiry-Based Learning (IBL)" format. Rather than a traditional lecture, the professor breaks the class into small groups and asks a series of leading questions designed to help students discover a new concept on their own. The professor can adjust the pace and offer explanations as needed.

Here's an example [1] of some class handouts from a topology class. I borrowed them from a friend who took the class, and going through all the exercises on my own brought me a sense of clarity that I was never able to achieve from the standard lecture-based topology course I took. My friend felt the same way, and according to surveys done by the department, students overwhelmingly prefer the IBL format to traditional lectures. This format benefits professors, too, who get immediate feedback about their teaching methods and how well students are doing.

[1] https://benrbray.com/static/files/umich_math490_f16_sbray.pd...

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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> I would go to office hours and the teachers were seriously so helpful. As a grad student that taught undergrads I always encouraged students to attend office hours. Most instructors do want you to succeed and one-on-one time is one of the best ways to learn. Definitely take advantage of your instructors' office hours; ask questions about anything that you aren't 100% sure about!

I TA and tell my students that if they don't come to office hours or ask questions that they might as well be getting their degree on YouTube. I don't mean this in the sense that they have to ask for every class, but the advantage of attending school (besides the piece of paper) is to get direct help. But I'm not attending a top 10 university and honestly most topics are covered by one of those universities and they…

Out of interest, roughly what proportion of students do come to the office hours?

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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I have not studied as an undergrad at a large institution, but I have taught at one, and I have taught as a prof at teaching-only institute. There is very little difference in the quality of teaching. Guess what, when teaching only staff is asked to teach 6 courses in an year, they teach the same as a research prof who spends half their time in research and half their time teaching 3 courses. I think there are many t…

I think we are mostly on the same page then :) > Guess what, when teaching only staff is asked to teach 6 courses in an year, they teach the same as a research prof who spends half their time in research and half their time teaching 3 courses. > ... > The problem is capitalism, and money-optimizations being the final decision maker rather than quality of teaching or research (which is also much worse than 50 years ag…

Funny, you link these notes. Because the prof is a full time researcher and seems to be teaching the same couple of courses over and over again [1]. Which is why you get the quality of the notes that you see.

[1] http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~jchw/teaching.html

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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I TA and tell my students that if they don't come to office hours or ask questions that they might as well be getting their degree on YouTube. I don't mean this in the sense that they have to ask for every class, but the advantage of attending school (besides the piece of paper) is to get direct help. But I'm not attending a top 10 university and honestly most topics are covered by one of those universities and they…

Out of interest, roughly what proportion of students do come to the office hours?

Really depends on the class. One class I had basically no one. This one usually about 2-3 (out of 40) but more as we're nearing the end of term. Sometimes people come to say hi (again, class dependent). Largest I've had was like 8.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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Funny how its also used in every textbook for people who aren't. This is getting to be apologia on the levels that I'd only seen in history books about why Roman numerals were superior.

The premise of your argument is that this notation is confusing people, or it's impossible to make explicit what it means. I don't buy it, you even explained the type elision using standard mathematical notaion in your original comment. So if there is some superior notation that would benefit all of maths, that sounds very interesting but I don't think you've made that point very well. Maybe a better example is neede…

Because I'm not going to write a few dozen pages of latex in a text comment. If you're interested thrown me $2k over bitcoin and I'll spend the 8 hours it would take to make this rigorous at below my usual rates.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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The sin^n x notation is bad. I don't blame the undergrads there.

So we learn the following fact:

              sin^{-1} x = y 
  =>                   x = sin y
Being enthusiastic new algebra students, we presume know this must work by applying sine to both sides:

      sin^{1} sin^{-1} x = sin^{1} y
  =>          sin^{0}  x = sin y           here sin^{0} is zero applications of sine to x    
  =>                   x = sin y
Noting we could start at line 2, and apply sin^{-1} to both side also, we have now learnt that:

       sin^{a} sin^{b} x = sin^{a+b} x
  if                   a = +/- 1
  and                  b = -/+ 1.
Presumably, if notation is at all sane, the rule applies to other values of a and b so:

                 sin^2 x = sin sin x (? Surely!)
Right? No.

                sin^2 x  = (sin x)^2
 and           sin sin x = (has no other name) 
              
No wonder students get confused. The notation is trying it's darnedest to confuse them.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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The sin^n x notation is bad. I don't blame the undergrads there. So we learn the following fact: sin^{-1} x = y => x = sin y Being enthusiastic new algebra students, we presume know this must work by applying sine to both sides: sin^{1} sin^{-1} x = sin^{1} y => sin^{0} x = sin y here sin^{0} is zero applications of sine to x => x = sin y Noting we could start at line 2, and apply sin^{-1} to both side also, we have…

Yes, this is definitely a problem.

I would just do away with the sin^{-1} notation (as, it seems, many textbooks already do) since we have the perfectly acceptable alternative "arcsin".

It's also not a very good notation since it's trying to imply that the sin function has an inverse, but it doesn't. That's why "sin^{-1}(sin(x)) = x" is not even right in general. The inverse only exists on specific subintervals, and it's also off by a multiple of pi, depending on that subinterval. "arcsin" is then defined as the inverse of sin, restricted to the interval [-pi/2,pi/2].

Of course, the bigger issue here is that f^n for any function f is inherently ambiguous, because it could refer either to the (pointwise) multiplication operation or to the composition operation.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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There is no absolute here. While I agree that a great degree of understanding is desirable, lots of concepts and techniques don’t sink in until hours, days or even years after being presented. I still remember powering through lots problems without much clarity and achieving the right answer. Every attempt, failed or successful, got me closer to really understand what I was doing. It’s ok not to understand a topic th…

I guess what you mean by "sink in" is a form of deeper more intuitive knowledge. Like when you suddenly figure out how everything is connected. If that's what you mean, then yes -- this is something that is going to happen over time. What I mean is that your teacher will want you to understand some concepts and learn some skills before you move to next topic. Very deep understanding is probably not on the list and it…

Yes and no. What I meant was more like, you don’t need to fully understand rigid body mechanics to build a table, but if you build enough tables, you might win some knowledge on rigid body mechanics that you may have missed in class.

Of course, this is not always true, but a concrete example that comes to mind is integration. It’s very hard conceptually, but not so in technique. If you learn how to do it, for the most part you can skip the concept (to some degree, obviously). I didn’t understood Riemann integral until I learned Lebesque.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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I think we are mostly on the same page then :) > Guess what, when teaching only staff is asked to teach 6 courses in an year, they teach the same as a research prof who spends half their time in research and half their time teaching 3 courses. > ... > The problem is capitalism, and money-optimizations being the final decision maker rather than quality of teaching or research (which is also much worse than 50 years ag…

Funny, you link these notes. Because the prof is a full time researcher and seems to be teaching the same couple of courses over and over again [1]. Which is why you get the quality of the notes that you see. [1] http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~jchw/teaching.html

Sure, some professors manage to do well at both research and teaching! It's great that some professors like her care about education and are experimenting with new classroom formats! My point was that traditional lectures are not always the best way of teaching.

And, I did not say it is impossible or even uncommon for research faculty to be good at teaching. However, being good at research does not automatically make one good at teaching, and there are other factors like time that prevent those who do care about education from giving their students a good experience in class.

In my own personal experience, and that of my classmates, the vast majority of research faculty simply do not have either the interest or the time to teach well. Out of the 30 or so math courses I took as an undergrad, I would say only about 4-5 of my professors put real effort into teaching.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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"Working backwards" is a completely valid method of proof, used all the time in automated reasoning. If a student successfully reasons backwards then there is no issue, it is a proof.

It's a completely valid work to do to figure out how to write a proof, but is not a proof itself. The section in the article states all my thoughts on that matter more clearly than I can. https://math.vanderbilt.edu/schectex/commerrs/#Backward

"P implies thesis (proof) hence it suffices to prove P: (proof of P)" is a completely valid proof step, and is backwards chaining.
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