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Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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Re: Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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Andreessen was an investor in Qik. Andreessen did a huge deal to buy Skype. Andreessen is an investor in Facebook AND on the board. He sold Qik to Skype for $100M and now he's going to sell Skype to Facebook for billions? "No conflict, no interest" indeed.

Like a boss!

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But .. he wrote Mosaic!

Re: Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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skype is only a good option if they want users. because the only appeal of skype is the userbase. really. if facebook has the penetration everyone believes they have, skype would be irrelevant. buy any other media streaming company with an actual decent codec and the rest is commodity.

Assuming you are right about the tech (I have no idea), it's not necessarily a simple 'user acquisition.' I have a facebook account that I rarely use and a skype account that's always on.

If logged in to skype meant logged in to facebook I would become a very active facebook user.

I can't gauge the value of that to facebook because it's still not entirely clear how they make money (at least not the kind of money investors are aiming for), but it's possible skype is very valuable. Who I call, how long, what hours, these all tell facebook a lot about me. Possibly more than my facebook account does.

Different people use facebook for different things. Photo sharing, address book, networking, chat, email (sort of), social news, games. Skype can add another big bullet point to that list.

Again, it's hard to say good or bad for facebook's bottom line at this point. If you are going by their current revenue model, you would have to relate everything to demographically segmented pageviews but these kind of numbers assume bigger value than that.

Re: Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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In the event of this actually happening, what are some alternatives to Skype's video chat?

I've personally been looking into this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi has anyone tried it? What do you think? I haven't gotten it to work yet,,,

I tried to use it for SIP recently and it did not work well for me at all. I am using Arch Linux and a tiling window manager. It doesn't seem to cooperate with my fairly normal sound setup and the interface is messed up on awesomewm at least. Not worth the effort.

The most reliable VoIP program I've found is twinkle, but it hasn't been updated in years afaik. I used Ekiga exclusively for SIP and video chat for several months but it was plagued with really annoying bugs, including frequent hard locks and unreliable presence/call functionalities.

I haven't been impressed with any Linux SIP/video chat applications to be honest. Empathy and Pidgin use gstreamer which usually doesn't work very well either. The most reliable video chat experience I've had is Skype, despite their buggy Linux client.

Re: Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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Upcoming mashable/techcrunch/other-tech-gossip-site headlines to be linked at HN:

    * Why Facebook will buy Skype
    * This is not a bubble
    * Facebook buying Skype is the dumbest thing ever
    * Skype's two hundred competitors that Google will buy
    * That settles it, we're in a bubble
    * Why Google/Microsoft/Yahoo/Apple should buy Skype
    * How I flipped my VOIP company for $4 billion in funny-money

Re: Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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post #28

Andreessen was an investor in Qik. Andreessen did a huge deal to buy Skype. Andreessen is an investor in Facebook AND on the board. He sold Qik to Skype for $100M and now he's going to sell Skype to Facebook for billions? "No conflict, no interest" indeed.

It's up to other investors in Facebook to raise this issue. Andressen would at least be expected to recuse himself from any discussions or votes on the matter and I expect he would be sued anyway if the purchase went sour.

(IANAL, TINLA etc)

Re: Facebook considering $3-4Bn buyout of Skype

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In the event of this actually happening, what are some alternatives to Skype's video chat?

IMO XMPP/Jingle is the best alternative:

- Open standard

- Supports federation between different servers

- Open source cllients available

- Also integrated into GMail (that's the technology that is used when you do a voice or video call)

- Will be fully integrated into Android starting with version 2.3.4

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