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Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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I can download Linux ISOs and video as as MKVs just fine to use or play them on my PC outside the walls of the web browser just fine.

Do you expect Google to return a .ISO file when you search for “debian linux” or do you get a web page with a link to the ISO?

No, but with power point files and word documents I do?

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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In a certain sense, I created the very first Flash animation. I was working at Macromedia and happened to be in the office earlier than usual that morning. Our SVP came to my boss and said basically “We bought Futurewave, we’re announcing it today, and we’re renaming FutureSplash to Shockwave Flash. I need somebody to throw a quick animation together for the press gathering, and none of the creative services people a…

This is wonderful, thanks for sharing. Any chance you've got a copy of that on an old hard drive somewhere? I bet the IA folks would love to highlight that.

Yeah I would love to see the first flash animation as well

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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post #60

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Point is... Are there any Unity memes? Haven't seen any :D

yes, actually: https://gamejolt.com/games/luigi-floating-on-an-egg-over-the...

Flash: you open the page, it plays. There might be one additional click required depending on your browser settings.

This: you open the page but it needs to be downloaded. You download it. You unzip it. You see that it's a Windows executable but you're on a Mac. You open it hoping that wine will run it. It does. You choose your graphics settings. You click OK. It plays.

Though I'm aware that Unity is capable of running on the web, I haven't seen that capability used much.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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Thanks, but as I said, it was not in widespread use in the 90s... at least not in an internet context.

Merriam-Webster has a 1998 [0] reference that sounds close to the modern usage, though I don't know when got popular - at or before 2008 though, based on their next example. I do vaguely remember "viral video" and "image macro" were distinct in the early/mid-00s though, at the time I don't think they were grouped together under "meme". [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/meme-word-orig...

Ah the dancing baby meme. That was huge and you could buy a software “package” on windows that had hundreds of video variations of the baby. I still have that software (no, I did not buy it).

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. However, it's preservation to be able to run & archiving of flash media are an absolute cornerstone of any attempt to archive the 2000s internet. Flash introduced & inspired countless people who have no doubt gone on to build amazing things in other technologies. I love flash. I'm glad it's not used anymore, but I truly love the content it p…

> Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. Nothing filled the gap left by Flash. It was easy, accessible, and drew so many young people to create. Flash had security issues, but they could have been fixed. Macromedia and/or Adobe could (and should) have published an open source standard and realized their tooling would always be ahead of the game. They didn't see the incredible opp…

> Flash was so much simpler than the Javascript "standards" layer cake we have today.

For basic animation and graphics that's true but not for creating anything interactive. ActionScript was based on ECMAScript / JavaScript and was very similar. If you knew JS you could easily write AS and vice versa.

If you mean it didn't have the complexity of today's JS-based apps that may be true but that's a choice, not a technical limitation.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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You are romanticizing Flash. One legitimate reason for it's eventual demise was due to the fact that it was very power hungry to run. On laptops that was bad, and on smartphones it would have been a non-starter. Though curiously, I remember that some smartphones did used to come with Flash like the Blackberry Z30 which had it through 10.2 and then it was taken away out of the hands of the device owners in 10.3

The Flash runtime was not power hungry. It was the terrible code that was written that ran on it that was power hungry. As HTML5 was emerging someone posted a HTML 5 demo on hacker news. It put 1 core of my machine to 80%. I wrote an equivalent version in Flash and it used 5%. All the people writing terrible code in Flash simply started writing terrible code in Java script instead.

> All the people writing terrible code in Flash simply started writing terrible code in Java script instead.

And then some genius decided "What if we ran JavaScript on the server?" and Node was born.

Then came the node_modules black hole and the left-pad debacle.

Sometimes I think JavaScript was a mistake.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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post #168

Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. However, it's preservation to be able to run & archiving of flash media are an absolute cornerstone of any attempt to archive the 2000s internet. Flash introduced & inspired countless people who have no doubt gone on to build amazing things in other technologies. I love flash. I'm glad it's not used anymore, but I truly love the content it p…

You love Flash from the bottom of your heart, but you're happy it's dead? Could it be that you're hiding your true feelings to be more in line with the expectations of the community? The modern web development establishment has managed to convince people that it has merit, when in fact it's a case study in accidental complexity. Every now and then some poor soul realizes what a mess they're in and writes a blog about…

I love the content it produced and the people it inspired rather than the tech itself.

I’m not happy it’s dead, I just don’t think it’s a good choice these days. As an artistic tool it’s perfectly valid, but I wouldn’t use it to design my next project.

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