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I hope they do this form factor again with the new chips

I am thinking may be next year or the year after. The MacBook Pro will get new Design, at 16" and 14". ( I hope instead of going thinner they could stay within the current cooling TDP ) Then the MacBook Air will have a 14" as well, before a 12" MacBook Air is introduced at a lower price range, possibly at $799.

> a 12" MacBook Air is introduced at a lower price range, possibly at $799.

That would be great. But it could make more difficult to sell an iPadPro (starting at $799) with a MagicKeyboard (starting at $300) as an alternative to a laptop.

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Does that mean you have to jailbreak your own machine to install linux or is it just a coincidence and it's just the same team?

No. https://keith.github.io/xcode-man-pages/bputil.1.html This changes the security mode to Permissive Security. Permissive Security uses the same "global" digital signature for macOS as the above Reduced Security option, in order to allow running software which is not the latest version. Thus anything other than the latest software therefore may have security vulnerabilities. At a high level, Permissive Security all…

Amazing, thanks for taking the time to thoroughly answer my question!

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Just wait, we’ll soon have an app for that — the equivalent of fake engine sound for EVs.

I like the idea. An app that roars louder the higher the cpu load.

Nullsoft (remember them?) had 'beep' which was always a joy to run.

https://www.1014.org/code/nullsoft/nbeep/

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“New Intel chips were often delayed and offered only small improvements over previous generations.” As noted on HN and elsewhere, Intel’s struggle has been in manufacturing. They minimized risk (“got lazy”) when Moore’s Law reigned and their fabs were 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else, but have since squeezed every last architectural drop out of 14nm. Put Tiger Lake on TSMC 5nm and a lot of M1’s lead goes away.…

“ You would be right to say that Intel couldn’t make the M1. It’s not because Intel’s fabs are struggling or Apple has found tricks no one else in the world knows about. It’s because Apple controls the entire software stack and therefore knows what they need on the chip. Intel caters to the entire market (one the M1 just noticeably shrunk) with myriad integrators, workloads, and users, and each has different concerns…

The places where people want Apple broken up are generally places where we all know it will make the result "worse" but will enable interoperability and competition and break down lock-in and empower users and lead to more repairable and less wasteful devices and (and and)... the idea is that what is best for an entire market isn't merely "the fastest thinnest devices with the longest battery life and the most integrated stacks" if that implies buying into one of a handful of locked down systems, but instead that we should actively enforce an optimization that is harmful for all of those companies and potentially their products but which causes an ecosystem of interoperable components where users have commensurate power to make demands back on platforms. It is the very true fact that economies of scale and efficiencies of vertical integration exist that make regulation and anti-trust law so critically important to prevent the world from being made up of an oligopoly of maybe three giant companies that each make one of everything you might ever own, all beautifully integrated with their own products while being almost entirely incompatible with the products made by the other two, with cross promotions from tying and forced purchases from bundling all making it difficult-to-impossible for a new company to independently introduce anything new without replicating the entire vertical stack of an incumbent.

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I really want the air for when I work outside in the summer. I worked from an iPad quite often with the magic keyboard, and it started throttling and sometimes overheated to the point of failure while outside in the sun. It's too cold in Chicago to test, but I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun - it's the only reason I'm considering the MBP.

It's too cold in Chicago to test I used to have one of those massive 17" MacBooks (Best keyboard ever), and it used to heat up enough to turn my thighs red. Back then, Apple avoided calling them "laptops," perhaps for this reason. Then I moved to Chicago, and found it was a wonderful machine for using outside on my balcony in cold weather because it would keep at least half of me toasty. If I started to get chilly, I…

My 2006 Mac Pro was very nice to use in winter for this exact reason

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It is funny to read the comments full of excitement. To me the M1 thing fills me with dread. To me I just see problems for the IT team. I already know our corporate VPN doesn't run on Big Sur. I have no hope for the monitoring app, or the Antivirus. Apple is such a pain for corporate IT

That seems like a corporate IT failure, not a failure of anything else. We just got an M1 Macbook Pro and nearly half of our machines are already updated to Big Sur and we haven't had any major issues. The only issue has been an old kext from Cisco that can't be approved anymore but it hasn't caused any major issues and Cisco has already let us know that there's an update to that incoming. In my experience, this tran…

How is it a corporate IT failure? When my predecessor chose the VPN provider it ran on all of the systems we used at the time. Corporate IT should have had a Crystal ball I guess

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Just remember that if your machine needs to swap because of low RAM you are now writing to your SSD. The permanently soldered in SSD that has a finite amount of writes. Saving $200 on RAM up front could get wiped out if you kill your SSD prematurely with constant, heavy swapping. Here I see the fast SSD speed as a negative - making it painless to do something inherently dangerous towards the lifespan of your SSD.

Have you ever actually worn out an SSD using personal workloads (ie, not on a server)? I haven't yet and I own machines/SSDs from 12 years ago - benchmarks are still roughly equivalent to what I had to start.

To re-iterate how much more reliable SSDs are now that they used to be, until about a month ago I worked for a vendor of hardware/software that is designed to read/write to disks hundreds of thousands of times per second (log collection and searching). When I first started working there ~5 years ago, they were testing out SSDs in the appliances and the team ultimately decided against it because they estimated the SSDs would burn out in under a year.

By the time I left they were shipping appliances with SSDs that were predicted to have lifespans longer than the longest hardware support you could buy from the vendor (longest hardware support contract - seven years). Hundreds of thousands of writes per second, every second, for 7+ years, uninterrupted.

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“New Intel chips were often delayed and offered only small improvements over previous generations.” As noted on HN and elsewhere, Intel’s struggle has been in manufacturing. They minimized risk (“got lazy”) when Moore’s Law reigned and their fabs were 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else, but have since squeezed every last architectural drop out of 14nm. Put Tiger Lake on TSMC 5nm and a lot of M1’s lead goes away.…

“ You would be right to say that Intel couldn’t make the M1. It’s not because Intel’s fabs are struggling or Apple has found tricks no one else in the world knows about. It’s because Apple controls the entire software stack and therefore knows what they need on the chip. Intel caters to the entire market (one the M1 just noticeably shrunk) with myriad integrators, workloads, and users, and each has different concerns…

>The people who suggest breaking up Apple are correct that it would destroy them

I haven't actually heard too many people calling for Apple to be broken up (most of what I hear is around increased regulation) but when I do hear breakups being talked about, it's more along the line of removing their value-adds like TV+ and Music+ and App Store. Those are the things where you could make an argument that they're hurting competition, not the coupling of their OS and CPU.

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“ You would be right to say that Intel couldn’t make the M1. It’s not because Intel’s fabs are struggling or Apple has found tricks no one else in the world knows about. It’s because Apple controls the entire software stack and therefore knows what they need on the chip. Intel caters to the entire market (one the M1 just noticeably shrunk) with myriad integrators, workloads, and users, and each has different concerns…

The places where people want Apple broken up are generally places where we all know it will make the result "worse" but will enable interoperability and competition and break down lock-in and empower users and lead to more repairable and less wasteful devices and (and and)... the idea is that what is best for an entire market isn't merely "the fastest thinnest devices with the longest battery life and the most integr…

With all due respect, I don’t see any logic explaining how an ecosystem of interoperable products where users have commensurafe power to make demands back on platforms would be a consequence of breaking up Apple.

I do think it’s a positive situation to wish, but the idea that it would arise simply as a result of breaking up Apple needs some serious explanation.

Repairability leading to less waste is also a seems like an unlikely consequence of making devices less integrated. Apple’s device lifetimes are much greater than any of their competitors.

I personally strongly value software freedom, and do not think we can afford to let the current situation persist for all time, but it pains me to see things like right to repair be tied in with the problems of the software ecology. One seems like Luddism, and the other seems like a bedrock of a sane digital future, two things that don’t mix well.

One step which would seem to serve both of these goals, would be to require all devices that fit some general category of ‘general purpose computer’ to permit alternative operating systems to be installed.

But that has absolutely zero to do with breaking up Apple. If we need rights, let’s actually say what they are.

Breaking companies up doesn’t create rights.

The null hypothesis for what would happen if you break up Apple is that Android would simply dominate, with no improvements over its current locked down state, which is admittedly slightly more free than Apple, but in no way resembles the utopia you describe.

We’d probably get Facebook and Amazon forks of Android gaining more traction this time around, but offering none of what you and I want in terms of freedom.

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“ You would be right to say that Intel couldn’t make the M1. It’s not because Intel’s fabs are struggling or Apple has found tricks no one else in the world knows about. It’s because Apple controls the entire software stack and therefore knows what they need on the chip. Intel caters to the entire market (one the M1 just noticeably shrunk) with myriad integrators, workloads, and users, and each has different concerns…

>The people who suggest breaking up Apple are correct that it would destroy them I haven't actually heard too many people calling for Apple to be broken up (most of what I hear is around increased regulation) but when I do hear breakups being talked about, it's more along the line of removing their value-adds like TV+ and Music+ and App Store. Those are the things where you could make an argument that they're hurting…

A lot of people, including a recent US presidential candidate, are suggesting a breakup - see Saurik’s comment.
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