My daughter was a creative genius, and then we bought her an iPhone

Post by ElijahLynn » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 12:49 AM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #318

xg15 wrote: post #242

This thread exercising various mental gymnastics to find other causes for her behavior honestly reminds me of a bunch of climate change deniers arguing why human activity has nothing to do with atmospheric heating. Being cautious with assuming causations is usually a good idea - but it falls flat when we know the causal chains that are at work. In the case of climate change, we know for a fact that humanity is releas…

This comment exercising various mental gymnastics to find nefarious causes for a teenager's changing personality... Every generation of parents thinks their kid is the smartest and then they become teenagers and suddenly they're moody and want to do things that their parents don't approve of. That's the basic fact underlying this. Any argument you make about kids changing when they become teenagers needs to have this…

Post by analog31 » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 4:40 AM UTC

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Go outside. Explore the neighborhood. Ride your bike. Read a book. Practice your cello. Tinker in the basement. I may be old fashioned, but Minecraft strikes me as faux-creative. It's not something you get "better" at. That's just my reaction, having watched it done. It puts you in a state of flow without actually flowing anywhere.

My question was intended as a direct question to parent poster. If that's what you want your kids to be doing, then that's what you should be doing. Your kid wants to be just like you. They watch everything you do, and they will find their own way to do what they think you are doing. So, want your kids to go outside? Go outside. Want them to read? Read. Want them to practice cello? Practice cello. Want them to learn…

Post by imtringued » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 8:41 AM UTC

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #132

sequoia wrote: post #87

Buried lede: > My daughter doesn’t return home from school until 6:30 pm and still has to eat, bathe, and get ready for bed. Perhaps it is not just the iPhone, but school taking up 100% of her time, energy, and attention that is preventing her from pursuing creative interests? As a homeschooling parent whose kids have been in school at times, I see this first hand. School is exhausting . Between rising unnaturally ea…

> School is exhausting. Between rising unnaturally early (which leaves kids tired), rushing and bustling kids on their daily commute, most of the daylight hours blocked for school then homework when you get home I will point out though that, if one is inclined to argue that school should prepare children for adult life, it sounds like this system is a pretty good mimic of the working life any given child is likely to…

Post by imtringued » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 10:03 AM UTC

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> The best formula I have observed is that obedient, self disciplined children tend to have obedient, self disciplined parents. I agree and hope people don't take this in a defeatist way. I've found that the biggest impact you can have on anyone's behavior (adult or child) is to set the example. Kids can smell hypocrisy a mile away, and besides, they only know how to act the way the see. Work on yourself, and your ki…

> I've found that the biggest impact you can have on anyone's behavior (adult or child) is to set the example. I agree in principle, but I find that that doesn't map very well to the digital world. This past Saturday, I spent about six hours staring at a screen. My kids did too. I was making music, an act I find creative, meaningful, and intellectually stimulating. They were mostly watching YouTube videos of people p…

Post by imtringued » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 10:30 AM UTC

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Yes, a girl doing OnlyFans is making money.

Turning that into a career seems like a moonshot, making it comparable to other "achieve celebrity" plans young adults may have (become a movie star, become a famous youtuber, become a famous rockstar, etc) I think in general these aspirations shouldn't be shat on, but young adults with these aspirations should probably be gently guided in more realistic directions.