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How is VSCode anything similar to IntelliJ other than they both can edit text and has plugins?
VSCode language plugins allow you to get autocomplete, go to definition, refactor support, debugging tools, etc. Closer to IntelliJ than to Sublime, in my experience.
Mostly I would just want Electron to disappear overnight.
I'm both sad and confused about why there are so many negative comments about Electron, when I happily use Electron apps every day of my life and have no complaints at all about them. In fact, I'd like to start building Electron apps of my own, it actually looks like a ton of fun! What is the experience I'm missing?
Look at Teams for example. The Electron desktop app is a slow, buggy, resource sucking mess. A video call with one person reduces my laptop battery from 8 hours to 2, fans going at full tilt the entire time. It uses its own notification system that doesn't (or at least didn't) respect the system notification settings. Lots of small things you innately expect to work, like being able to right click a message to edit it, simply do nothing.
Of course, take this with a grain of salt, because I'm generally of the opinion that the DOM is a mediocre target for applications, and that we all put up with it because it's attached to the world's greatest distribution mechanism. So to me, the fact that we'd want to bring all that awkwardness to the desktop and divorce it of its killer feature seems insane.
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Yes. I am not even joking. Facebook was so terrible that they had to literally reinvent their wheels (hiphop). Its not hard to become a large company when you have black budget backing as confirmed by Snowden.
Your own sentence argues against itself: the team that built HHVM certainly are not "terrible PHP developers"...
Doesn't it kinda make you think, just a little?
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Slack is a messy one page app developed by PHP programmers and vscode is open source and actually made by competent people.
Slack is really weird. It seems like they would have the resources to do native applications. I can't fault anyone for doing an Electron app as a demo, prototype, MVP, that's seems completely reasonable. What I don't get is why they don't want to make a native macOS client, or Windows client. For Linux I get that they don't necessarily know if it should be GTK, QT, should they adopt KDE standards or Gnome, something…
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Slack is a messy one page app developed by PHP programmers and vscode is open source and actually made by competent people.
Slack is really weird. It seems like they would have the resources to do native applications. I can't fault anyone for doing an Electron app as a demo, prototype, MVP, that's seems completely reasonable. What I don't get is why they don't want to make a native macOS client, or Windows client. For Linux I get that they don't necessarily know if it should be GTK, QT, should they adopt KDE standards or Gnome, something…
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VSCode language plugins allow you to get autocomplete, go to definition, refactor support, debugging tools, etc. Closer to IntelliJ than to Sublime, in my experience.
But such plugins exist for Sublime, too. Especially since the Language Server Protocol has been implemented.
Is there something remotely comparable to VSCode's debugger view on Sublime for instance?
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That's not a fair comparison either. VSCode does way more than Sublime Text. I actually found VSCode closer to Intellij than to Sublime Text.
How is VSCode anything similar to IntelliJ other than they both can edit text and has plugins?
What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.
If only the issue was limited to Electron... I often feel like Electron is more a declaration of defeat, like: hey no matter where you look at, software bloat keeps eating the precious advances in power provided by hardware. So let's at least get some comfort and value out of that. (Electron does put multiplatform desktop development within reach of 100x more developers than Qt/etc)
What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.
If only the issue was limited to Electron... I often feel like Electron is more a declaration of defeat, like: hey no matter where you look at, software bloat keeps eating the precious advances in power provided by hardware. So let's at least get some comfort and value out of that. (Electron does put multiplatform desktop development within reach of 100x more developers than Qt/etc)
This! The old joke of Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping for Emacs is not relevant today any more. Same will happen with Electron, developer productivity will trump anything.
I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
> Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Commitment. Confidence. Customers. Apple has committed to Apple Silicon. Flagship products are switching. It isn’t an add-on or side project. That breeds confidence that Apple will stick with it. That confidence and Apple’s track record make it likely there will be demand for software on Apple Silicon. This is compounded by Apple’s cus…
Apple made the leap in architecture before (PPC -> Intel) and while painful, they were successful and showed benefits from the switch.