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Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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post #75

Really excited about this, and so happy we were able to roll it out before Flash's official deprecation at the end of the year. If you have old SWFs you'd like to share, these are the directions for uploading them so that they'll be emulated in-browser: https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/datahub/Uploading_SWFs_for...

I wish there was a way to get 2Advanced SWFs from somewhere.. Those sites were IMO the ultimate displays of what Flash could do visually.

"The website went back up last night: http://2advanced.com for a final 6 weeks until Flash vanishes!"

Source: https://twitter.com/fwa/status/1327665766213316608

I managed to grab a local copy. Let me know if you want it.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#122
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All major browsers have sunset support for Flash and it's moved behind increasingly strict warnings over the years. Since Google Search is a web application, there's not much value in giving people content they can't use.

I can download Linux ISOs and video as as MKVs just fine to use or play them on my PC outside the walls of the web browser just fine.

Do you expect Google to return a .ISO file when you search for “debian linux” or do you get a web page with a link to the ISO?

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#123
post #83

Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. However, it's preservation to be able to run & archiving of flash media are an absolute cornerstone of any attempt to archive the 2000s internet. Flash introduced & inspired countless people who have no doubt gone on to build amazing things in other technologies. I love flash. I'm glad it's not used anymore, but I truly love the content it p…

> Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. Nothing filled the gap left by Flash. It was easy, accessible, and drew so many young people to create. Flash had security issues, but they could have been fixed. Macromedia and/or Adobe could (and should) have published an open source standard and realized their tooling would always be ahead of the game. They didn't see the incredible opp…

Agree with that sentiment! But would take it one step further. I argued in 2010 that Adobe should have (could have, would have) launched their own hardware platform. This would have given them & the thousands of loyal Flash devs a more permanent 'final destination' for their apps & games - despite Apple's intentions.

Easier said than done, but fun to think about how things could have played out if Flash was given a dedicated hardware platform and follow on generational iterations ie- today maybe we'd have one more option other than iOS or Android. In fact, an allegience with Microsoft probably would have been best and saved both companies' endevours in the dedicated phone/tablet space but now I'm just spitballing.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#124
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. Nothing filled the gap left by Flash. It was easy, accessible, and drew so many young people to create. Flash had security issues, but they could have been fixed. Macromedia and/or Adobe could (and should) have published an open source standard and realized their tooling would always be ahead of the game. They didn't see the incredible opp…

The mid 2000s era was a really magical time for me growing up. Just the sheer amount of interesting games and videos available on places like NewGrounds and Kongregate was something else. It was kind of crazy how easy it was at the time to get at least some attention to any proof of concept project simply by posting onto said sites. Something that has definitely gotten much harder over time despite the more advanced…

It's definitely not quite the same thing, but I think some of that on-ramp is happening in places like Minecraft and Roblox, and in creation environments like PICO-8.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#125
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. Nothing filled the gap left by Flash. It was easy, accessible, and drew so many young people to create. Flash had security issues, but they could have been fixed. Macromedia and/or Adobe could (and should) have published an open source standard and realized their tooling would always be ahead of the game. They didn't see the incredible opp…

I feel like Unity3D could be turned into an animation tool like Flash with some extensions. It already has HTML5 export.

The Flash authoring tool (now called Adobe Animate) has HTML5 / Canvas output via the CreateJs library.

https://createjs.com/ https://www.adobe.com/products/animate.html

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#126
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. Nothing filled the gap left by Flash. It was easy, accessible, and drew so many young people to create. Flash had security issues, but they could have been fixed. Macromedia and/or Adobe could (and should) have published an open source standard and realized their tooling would always be ahead of the game. They didn't see the incredible opp…

Remember that Jobs banned it to kill it. https://www.cnet.com/news/jobs-why-apple-banned-flash-from-t...

I don't think this is the fatal reason Flash is stopped. Flash is only forbidden in mobile web browsers.

Flash is mainly self-cancelled by Adobe itself. It looks they couldn't get expected revenue from this product. However, I think they are short-sighted at this point.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#127
post #22

What I don't understand is why google is intentionally excluding .swf results from search results. Okay, fine, you don't want it in Chrome that's your choice. But not indexing .swf in your search engine product because you don't support it in your browser product is crazy. It's going out of their way, doing more work, to hurt people. I guess this is just another example of being unable to count on profit motivated co…

What would Google index? Can you even decipher the contents of a SWF to get keywords out of it?

Yes, Adobe released an SDK (which Google used) to allow indexing content in SWF files. However, it looks like Google no longer uses it, or indexes them.

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

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post #5
post #3

Using an open source Flash emulator written in Rust and exported to Webassembly[0]. [0] https://ruffle.rs/

As a sidenote, I’ve taken some brief dives into Ruffle and it looks very good. There’s great attention to detail everywhere. I hope it has a long future. I’ve previously also taken brief dives into Lightspark and even submitted a minor PR or two. Lightspark is cool, but I feel Ruffle is already surpassing it in regards.

Could you expand on what ways Ruffle surpasses other emulators?

Re: Flash Animations Live Forever at the Internet Archive

#130
post #83

Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. However, it's preservation to be able to run & archiving of flash media are an absolute cornerstone of any attempt to archive the 2000s internet. Flash introduced & inspired countless people who have no doubt gone on to build amazing things in other technologies. I love flash. I'm glad it's not used anymore, but I truly love the content it p…

> Flash as a technology should never be used now unless for artistic purposes. Nothing filled the gap left by Flash. It was easy, accessible, and drew so many young people to create. Flash had security issues, but they could have been fixed. Macromedia and/or Adobe could (and should) have published an open source standard and realized their tooling would always be ahead of the game. They didn't see the incredible opp…

> Nothing filled the gap left by Flash

Flash should have never been used to create websites. end of story.

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