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The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

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Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

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How much better the world would be if open source was fully funded by some of those tech billionaires whose fortunes were made by sitting on its shoulders.

And the news outlets that give them lip service.

or rather the organization(s) benefiting from OSS and the ad-revenue that formerly used to belong to the news organizations.

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

#22

> “I couldn't grab dinner with someone after work,” he says, because he felt like he'd be letting users down: I shouldn't be out enjoying myself. I should be working on Bootstrap! That's an attitude problem on the part of the developer. He shouldn't feel guilty for providing insufficient free support.

It's easy for you to say "he shouldn't feel that way." But it's a different thing to be in the position yourself of having hundreds of thousands of people depending solely on you to fix a problem (even to just review and merge). The pressure is real, and there aren't a lot of healthy outlets to relieve that pressure.

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

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post #10

It isn't so much that companies are unfairly using others' work. It's that if you're going to use an open source tool in your business's codebase, you'll inevitably need support, upgrades, and bug-fixes, which translates into you putting pressure on the maintainers to do more work. By all means, use those people's previous work to put something amazing out into the world quickly. However, when you inevitably need hel…

I go for #1 pretty frequently but my biggest frustration with trying to contribute to open source projects is: the repository whose owner pops in every 6 months or so to merge a PR or two, then disappears. Just enough activity to hope that they might eventually merge my outstanding PRs, not quite dead enough for me to just fork and move on with my life...

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

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post #10

It isn't so much that companies are unfairly using others' work. It's that if you're going to use an open source tool in your business's codebase, you'll inevitably need support, upgrades, and bug-fixes, which translates into you putting pressure on the maintainers to do more work. By all means, use those people's previous work to put something amazing out into the world quickly. However, when you inevitably need hel…

This. If your company demands anything from the maintainers, be ready to back your demands with either appropriate compensation for the human or appropriate effort for the software. (Or an appropriate combination of both.)

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

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> While you're surfing the web, you ought to thank Jacob Thornton for making it so pretty. He's a programmer who, along with web designer Mark Otto, created Bootstrap, free software that the pros use to make their sites look spiffy. If you've ever noticed that a lot of websites have the same big chunky buttons, or the same clean forms, that's likely because an estimated one-fifth of all websites on the planet use Bootstrap.

I don't blame Jacob, but man the WWW would probably be better without Bootstrap. Again, it's not Jacob's fault, he made a product that was so good everyone wanted to use it... so everyone used it. It feels like the Demolition Man future, where Taco Bell is the only survivor of the Franchise Wars.

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

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post #26

> While you're surfing the web, you ought to thank Jacob Thornton for making it so pretty. He's a programmer who, along with web designer Mark Otto, created Bootstrap, free software that the pros use to make their sites look spiffy. If you've ever noticed that a lot of websites have the same big chunky buttons, or the same clean forms, that's likely because an estimated one-fifth of all websites on the planet use Boo…

is it really necessary to complain about this?

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

#29

How much better the world would be if open source was fully funded by some of those tech billionaires whose fortunes were made by sitting on its shoulders.

That’d be awesome! Should note that a lot of popular software is (at least in part) paid for by the large companies. For example, Google probably has several engineers working on chromium. Facebook has several working on React and React Native. Apple has several working on Swift. Automattic (where I work), has several working on WordPress.

Re: The Few, the Tired, the Open Source Coders

#30
Open source hackers suffer the same fate as other creatives. What's the software industry analog of gigging at some shit bars that rake in money getting people who like your music drunk but not paying you all while working a day job so you can do what you love?

Really it's this whole stupid capitalist setup. It's not just open source programmers and artists who suffer this. It's everyone. Have you ever met a single parent who works full time just so they can be a parent full time? Which, by the way, is probably the most important work someone can do, parenting.

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