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The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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When I was in undergrad, I declared a math minor quite late - just before my junior year. This led to me taking up to 9 hours of math credits in a semester. The reason I declared my math minor was because I was interested in going for a PhD in economics and my econ professors all recommended that I try to take as many math classes as possible to prepare. Reader, I was not a 'numbers person' at all. However, in all of…

Getting students to seek consultation is a major problem. I advise them to come in small groups. This helps the shy ones. They don’t realize that it is very difficult to fail a student who asks for help. Any failure of such a student is implicitly also the teacher’s.

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When I was in undergrad, I declared a math minor quite late - just before my junior year. This led to me taking up to 9 hours of math credits in a semester. The reason I declared my math minor was because I was interested in going for a PhD in economics and my econ professors all recommended that I try to take as many math classes as possible to prepare. Reader, I was not a 'numbers person' at all. However, in all of…

Getting students to seek consultation is a major problem. I advise them to come in small groups. This helps the shy ones. They don’t realize that it is very difficult to fail a student who asks for help. Any failure of such a student is implicitly also the teacher’s.

Only true for the teachers that care. A lot of my professors didn't give a damn about teaching and were annoyed that I was wasting their time showing up to these office hours.

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Not arguing with your point, because it has merit, but do want to add that part of the problem with math education (at least here in the US) is structural: for most students, to start with what they know when they enter and to graduate in 4 years with a engineering / science / math / CS degree that means something, there is just too much to "cover." So we tend to cover "methods and tools," e.g., calculus first, with…

I took Physics as an elective in University, but it really didn’t sharpen my Calculus skills. Which is sad, but probably because I did so bad in Calculus as an undergraduate. But, one thing I absolutely did take away from Physics was the idea of units and their conversions. It has come in handy so often though in and outside my degree of computer science. If I had to simplify it, it really helps you not to compare ap…

Absolutely! internalizing dimensional analysis has been one of the most useful things I learned in grad school -- even though converting units was something many of us learn, in one form or another, before college.

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Not arguing with your point, because it has merit, but do want to add that part of the problem with math education (at least here in the US) is structural: for most students, to start with what they know when they enter and to graduate in 4 years with a engineering / science / math / CS degree that means something, there is just too much to "cover." So we tend to cover "methods and tools," e.g., calculus first, with…

>It used to be (this tells you how old I am) Why do you say that? Maybe it's atypical but MIT seems to have the same calculus and physics sequence, taken in parallel, that they did ages ago.

I think tech-oriented schools, e.g., Caltech, MIT, Georgia Tech, etc., are exceptions rather than the rule. Most large state universities in the US are likely to have different physics / chemistry / math courses for students heading in different directons. Not all intro physics courses will be calculus-based, yet some of the students in those courses will still have to take calculus.

Many US medical schools, for example, silll require 1 semester calculus and some physics, but I don't think the physics course needs to be calculus-based. Many used to require a second calculus, but I think that has largely shifted to biostatistics instead.

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Regarding arrogant teachers, I’ve heard an anecdote about Dirac: if anyone ever asked a question, he would pause for a moment thinking, find the relevant part of the lecture, and the repeat it word-for-word. I guess he didn’t get many questions.

I’m often a bit surprised by the handwriting problems but here are some tips:

1. Just write things bigger. Paper is cheap. Ink is cheap. I never liked the lines getting in the way so I just wrote on printer paper.

2. People often talk about superscripts and subscripts but outside of random calculus exercises, superscripts are either only 2 or sometimes 3 (so make them look different), a few letters like a, b, ab, 2a, a + b, etc (not hard to differentiate), or can be inferred from position (eg they go a_0 + a_1x + a_2x^2 + ...). Subscripts are usually either positional, something simple like n, n+1, n+2 (easy to differentiate), or some subset of the letters i,j,k,l (give j a decent descender to differentiate it from i; make sure the dot and curve on the i are obvious, write an l like a \ell). Mostly, you get to choose the letters so you don’t need to worry about differentiating \xi^{x^t} from \zeta^{\chi^\tau} (a close case is a pair of substitutions x -> f(\xi), t -> g(\tau), but this isn’t so hard when you realise that the Greeks go together and the Latins go together so you don’t need to differentiate t from tau)

3. A few simple handwriting modifications can help a lot (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22989703). I found larger ascenders and descenders helped (but make sure you know what they are in Latin and Greek), especially for i vs j, g vs p vs q, a vs d, u vs y, f vs s, z vs 7. I also modify a rho to sit on the baseline and slant more than a p. Curves and bowls help eg to differentiate a gamma from a y, or a k from a K from a kappa (write k with a bowl, kappa a bit like an x a la \varkappa), an l from a i, or a nu/u/v. I found italics unhelpful. My normal handwriting is italic but I write mathematics with an upright italic.

4. It doesn’t really matter if your xi and zeta are ugly so long as they don’t look like eachother or anything else. I had a lecturer who didn’t like to draw or say xi, he called it squiggle and would read aloud “so d squiggle d t is ...” (also twiddle is a much better name for \sim than tilde)

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It is not an issue until you start trying to teach any sort of fix point theorem, at which point the wheels fall off because the notion can't deal with higher order functions at all.

I guess I just don't get your point. D 2 = 0 doesn't imply anything, it's just shorthand to make working on something less tedious for people who are already familiar with it. It seems perfectly expressive and sane: mathematicians have successfully studied differentiation using standard math notation. 2 and (λ (x) 2) aren't 'treated the same', that's just a strawman.

Funny how its also used in every textbook for people who aren't. This is getting to be apologia on the levels that I'd only seen in history books about why Roman numerals were superior.

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Getting students to seek consultation is a major problem. I advise them to come in small groups. This helps the shy ones. They don’t realize that it is very difficult to fail a student who asks for help. Any failure of such a student is implicitly also the teacher’s.

Only true for the teachers that care. A lot of my professors didn't give a damn about teaching and were annoyed that I was wasting their time showing up to these office hours.

Was this math? I found usually math guys including professors like to talk about math.

Re: The Most Common Errors in Undergraduate Mathematics (2009)

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When I was in undergrad, I declared a math minor quite late - just before my junior year. This led to me taking up to 9 hours of math credits in a semester. The reason I declared my math minor was because I was interested in going for a PhD in economics and my econ professors all recommended that I try to take as many math classes as possible to prepare. Reader, I was not a 'numbers person' at all. However, in all of…

I find this concept of being a numbers person weird to being good at math. Most math is about symbol manipulation and numbers are really only at the end.

Here numbers are always in the beginning (of each chapter as the chapter number....)

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post #132

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Only true for the teachers that care. A lot of my professors didn't give a damn about teaching and were annoyed that I was wasting their time showing up to these office hours.

Was this math? I found usually math guys including professors like to talk about math.

In my experience, when they're top tier math researchers they tend to be oblivious to the student's perspective, grasping the problem too well to give it detailed treatment. This is neither a failing of their enthusiasm nor a social tactic, but an imbalance in their abilities.

An old anecdote is the professor who was asked by a student how a certain problem is solved. The professor paused in thought for a moments, then gave the answer. The student asked again how to solve it, and the professor, again, thought for a while and gave the answer.

The student persisted: "but how is it done?" To which the professor gave a frustrated look and said, "I already solved it two different ways, what more do you want?"

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Bad handwriting. At age 40 I started taking a masters in stats and had situations where I had exponents on exponents. This lead me to buy a higher resolution tablet for reading pdf's with tiny math. I also bought a finer point pen and this helped me improve my handwriting a lot . Closing loops on "o's" or backtracing the upward line of a cursive "t" to not make a loop. With the finer point, I was able to see my impre…

FWIW, if you use a pencil you should get to know your tool. Investigate different pencil options. There are quite a few cool features on mechanical pencils for instance. Try different lead hardnesses and thicknesses. Get a quality eraser.

I'm 45 and finally discovered I like softer lead. It's easier to read and smudging isn't a problem for me. I took drafting in high school but never retained any of the knowledge or put it to good use when writing.

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