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Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by O_H_E »

From the linked wiki about creative coding:

> Creative coding is a type of computer programming in which the goal is to create something expressive instead of something functional.

from the linked page:

> Have you ever wanted to open up the hood of your word processor and tinker with what it's doing? Exploded mode in Vodka is how you do that. Exploded mode shows the guts of your Vodka doc -- the data structures and information that is underlying what you're seeing.

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> Vodka is a Lisp, but instead of parentheses, it uses boxes.

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And maybe I will add, that instead of variables and data-structures, it operates on the prose you are writing. It is definitely hard to explain, but pretty cool nevertheless.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by mjh2539 »

If you can't think of a descriptive name for your tool or product, maybe you should pause, think on it, and resist the temptation to pick a completely irrelevant one-word noun.

Call me a codger. I don't care. This crap was old ten years ago. It's still old.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by GauntletWizard »

mjh2539 wrote: post #22

If you can't think of a descriptive name for your tool or product, maybe you should pause, think on it, and resist the temptation to pick a completely irrelevant one-word noun. Call me a codger. I don't care. This crap was old ten years ago. It's still old.

I would hardly call it irrelevant. The name means “Vodka helps you write creatively”, which is a sentiment Ernest Hemingway would have agreed with.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by saeranv »

mjh2539 wrote: post #22

If you can't think of a descriptive name for your tool or product, maybe you should pause, think on it, and resist the temptation to pick a completely irrelevant one-word noun. Call me a codger. I don't care. This crap was old ten years ago. It's still old.

It's smart to have an irrelevant one-word noun name, it gives you the flexibility to pivot your product over time, without being tied to an overly-specific name.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by refulgentis »

GauntletWizard wrote: post #23
mjh2539 wrote: post #22

If you can't think of a descriptive name for your tool or product, maybe you should pause, think on it, and resist the temptation to pick a completely irrelevant one-word noun. Call me a codger. I don't care. This crap was old ten years ago. It's still old.

I would hardly call it irrelevant. The name means “Vodka helps you write creatively”, which is a sentiment Ernest Hemingway would have agreed with.

hunter thompson would agree with weed, or cocaine - all of these aren't the right choice for an app name, it's clever, but lacks enough context to require enough active thinking to be jarring

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by EpicEng »

saeranv wrote: post #24
mjh2539 wrote: post #22

If you can't think of a descriptive name for your tool or product, maybe you should pause, think on it, and resist the temptation to pick a completely irrelevant one-word noun. Call me a codger. I don't care. This crap was old ten years ago. It's still old.

It's smart to have an irrelevant one-word noun name, it gives you the flexibility to pivot your product over time, without being tied to an overly-specific name.

"It allows you to fail multiple times without changing the product name"

Great.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by andrewflnr »

EpicEng wrote: post #26
saeranv wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's smart to have an irrelevant one-word noun name, it gives you the flexibility to pivot your product over time, without being tied to an overly-specific name.

"It allows you to fail multiple times without changing the product name" Great.

I'm not sure what you think you're saying, but rephrasing the benefit to include the word "fail" does not make it less beneficial.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Post by qwerty456127 »

mjh2539 wrote: post #22

If you can't think of a descriptive name for your tool or product, maybe you should pause, think on it, and resist the temptation to pick a completely irrelevant one-word noun. Call me a codger. I don't care. This crap was old ten years ago. It's still old.

It's hard to recall how many (probably hundreds) of projects (from humble command line utilities to social movements) I have imagined but never started and ultimately forgotten just because I couldn't come up with how to name the file/folder for them. Perhaps some could change my life or the world but now they're lost to oblivion.

Guess what's I am doing right now? Googling for a good generator of cool-looking gibberish words which would provide a steady source of meaningless names for my projects.

I would rather use UUIDs if they were not so hard to read and memorize.

I also love my project names to sound ironical so nobody would take them too serious, expect much and judge too hard. E.g. I actually find "git", "shit"[1], and "gimp" perfect names (whoever doesn't know - try find out what do "git" and "gimp" words mean besides the respective software products).

Anything can be renamed (or left as it is) once you grow in confidence the actual project can probably succeed.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22303710

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