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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by Supermancho »

xbmcuser wrote: post #356
Supermancho wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paying for something not to happen is different than paying for something in return. Obviously.

Ah no you pay the content creators by watching the ads with your time or the subscription.

> Restaurants extort me to pay for food if I want to eat there.

> Paying for something not to happen is different than paying for something in return.

The rough metaphor about restaurants, is not an equivalent situation.

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> you pay the content creators by watching the ads with your time or the subscription

To clarify, you believe that there is an ephemeral currency of attention.

Your attention (which was to be directed at the content creator) can be redirected forcefully, unless you pay in money. I'd be remiss to call it outright extortion, but the parallel is there.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by ArunRaja »

nickjj wrote: post #148

Edit: I just talked to YouTube support directly and yep it's exactly what I anticipated below. It only affects channels not yet in the YPP. Larger channels who are in the YPP but explicitly choose not to monetize videos will not get these new ads placed into their videos. At least not with this TOS change. Original comment: The wording of this isn't 100% crystal clear but I have a feeling this article might be making…

Good points! My analysis:

1. "Youtube partner program" can be terminated after 6 months of zero interaction with users, though creator shall reapply.

2. Youtube shall run ads on non YPP videos.

So idea seems to be, takeaway 'ideal creators' money from them to 'Youtube'.

Is it fair to disassociate creator from "YPP/ads share" for 6 month/more dis-engagement?

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Post by dangisawhore »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #563
mmastrac wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright infringement isn't theft.

Illegal copying? Call it what you will, if you had paid for the Dark Knight, WB would get $5. Instead they get $0. It's illegal and if everyone did it, movies would not exist.

That's the idea

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by zeruch »

bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

This has been the same for me, although I do find for content created by others, there should at least be a monetization split.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by ArunRaja »

secondcoming wrote: post #59
randlet wrote: post #32

Most of the creators I watch are switching to a combination of Patreon and in-video advertising "reads" (have you heard about Kiwi Co?!?) both of which cut Google out of the equation so it's not too surprising to me Google is cranking up the dial on their own advertisements.

I wonder how long YT will tolerate those in-video ads when YT Premium is supposed to allow for an ad-free experience. I'm also curious as to how the advertisers and YT channels come up with pricing. The advertisers will have no metrics on how often the ad was skipped over, and maybe it's a coincidence, but the channels seem to keep the in-video ad lengths to integer multiples of 'skip 10 seconds' button presses.

But thats channels decision, you can always 'skip ad' with 'forward 10 sec'. Else, You shall avoid the channel altogether.

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Post by forest_dweller »

SXX wrote: post #630
forest_dweller wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where? Most place seem to get quite expensive once you add a Object Storage on top.

Hetzner $50+ servers have 1gbps uplink with unmetered BW.

Thanks I will take a look.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by nickjj »

mdoms wrote: post #461
nickjj wrote: post #148

Edit: I just talked to YouTube support directly and yep it's exactly what I anticipated below. It only affects channels not yet in the YPP. Larger channels who are in the YPP but explicitly choose not to monetize videos will not get these new ads placed into their videos. At least not with this TOS change. Original comment: The wording of this isn't 100% crystal clear but I have a feeling this article might be making…

"It's not as bad as it seems because it doesn't affect me personally". Thanks for your input mate.

> "It's not as bad as it seems because it doesn't affect me personally". Thanks for your input mate.

I didn't say that, so you might want to remove your quotes.

The article made it seem like people with 5 million daily views who decided not to monetize their videos would get ads placed into their videos and make $0 with no way to opt-out while YouTube profited from ads in those views. That would be way different (and worse) than what's really happening.

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Post by svachalek »

BEEdwards wrote: post #629
bestnameever wrote: post #577

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most businesses don’t give away products or services away for free on a mass scale despite being able to afford to do so.

But they're not giving it away, they're harvesting massive amounts of information even off of videos without ads.

What value does that information have, other than to sell ads?
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