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Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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There is no explanation of what this is on the page. The one sentence description is meaningless to newcomers. What is creative coding? What does it have to do with creative writing? You need a better explanation / demo.

Vodka is a Lisp, but instead of parentheses, it uses boxes. The yellow boxes around the words you typed before? Those are the equivalent of parentheses in Lisp.

It's a lisp environment! But I agree there should probably be a demo or some kind of interactive example.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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post #6

There is no explanation of what this is on the page. The one sentence description is meaningless to newcomers. What is creative coding? What does it have to do with creative writing? You need a better explanation / demo.

> What is creative coding?

The project's readme links to a wikipedia page that defines the term and provides examples.

"Creative coding is a type of computer programming in which the goal is to create something expressive instead of something functional."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_coding

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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post #6

There is no explanation of what this is on the page. The one sentence description is meaningless to newcomers. What is creative coding? What does it have to do with creative writing? You need a better explanation / demo.

Ok, we'll change the URL above, from https://github.com/eeeeaaii/vodka to the intro page.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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Title makes me think of the Ballmer peak: https://xkcd.com/323/

It had to have started there right? But I think this could also be valuable before hitting the peak.

But then again, unraveling a drunkenly produced chunk of LISP doesn't exactly sound fun either.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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This looks like a text-first coding environment

I like the idea of building websites and writing blog posts by starting with text and slowly taking different parts of it and adding dynamic functionality

Maybe I want to embed the current date somewhere

Maybe I want to embed a chart

It's not exactly a new idea, but doing things with LISP might provide some useful invariants

Hoping I understand this correctly

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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post #13
post #6

There is no explanation of what this is on the page. The one sentence description is meaningless to newcomers. What is creative coding? What does it have to do with creative writing? You need a better explanation / demo.

> What is creative coding? The project's readme links to a wikipedia page that defines the term and provides examples. "Creative coding is a type of computer programming in which the goal is to create something expressive instead of something functional." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_coding

That definition irks me a bit because technically the creativity they have done is functional and it just makes me think they're talking about something even stranger.

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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This looks interesting. Someone posted a link to that Hemingway writing app a few days ago, and I remember thinking that might be useful if there was a way to define your own rules.

I could see this possibly being a good way to make "n+7" poems, other Oulipo styled stuff [1].

See example 16: http://www.writing.upenn.edu/bernstein/experiments.html

Re: Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)

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There was a suite of software developed for Unix in the late 80s called "The Writer's Workbench", described in Wikipedia as "perhaps the earliest grammar checker to receive wide usage on Unix systems." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writer's_Workbench

There is another program named "Writers Workbench" which is available as an online version and as a plugin for Microsoft Word. https://www.writersworkbench.com/ It wasn't clear to me whether the "Writer's Workbench" was derived from, or inspired by, the earlier Unix software.

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