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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
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#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
The estate as the copyright holder (in most cases) can pull down the videos if they like. YouTube is not obligated to host and serve content for free forever. As many other big tech companies they have a very strong position in the market (edging into monopoly / duopoly territory), which essentially prevent competitors with different business plans to be successful. To me this sounds like the market is broken and war…
That supposes the estate is even aware of such content. Which is the issue I am talking about. I would be fine if google disabled formerly free videos until someone agreeded to monetizing them, but to just arbitrarily make that change means it’s done without the possibility of consent.
> I would be fine if google disabled formerly free videos until someone agreed to monetizing them
That seems worse? All these videos that I uploaded become inaccessible just because I'm not around to approve monetization?
(Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)
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#583Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't want to watch ads you can always do something else. There's no shortage of things to do, and YouTube need not be high on your list.
Of course I could, but why should I? Ad blockers work fine.
That’s good too: just because they sent you some bit doesn’t mean you are obligated to read (/watch/parse/etc) them.
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#584Wait, cerators can choose whether there are ads? Meaning every time I see an ad before a video it’s because the uploader thought it’s worth making $0.50 a year?
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#585Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was my first thought as well. Both coursera and audiobooks are not free or ad-supported. Would these paid alternatives be as attractive if they had ad-supported options? I watch more youtube than any other video platform and I am happy to pay the $13/month to be ad free. Is it a sustainable business model? That’s for the bean counters at Alphabet to know. For now, I am content.
I was happily a subscriber, but like most things Google does, they decided to switch things up for the sake of different. What I don't like about paying $18/mo for Youtube (family) is that they are still collecting truckloads of data about me and using it to target MORE advertisements. If I pay for a service, it my expectation that you provide me a way to opt out of your additional revenue opportunities. To that end,…
From their POV it's perfectly reasonable - by paying, you showed you have the money thus you're very worthy target for more ads and tracking!
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#586Having youtube premium is definitely the biggest time saver for me. Other than not showing ads, lets you listen to videos like a podcast on mobile in background. For podcasts that also posts youtube videos, I just use youtube since it lets me see reactions when I want to from podcasters. I never understand HN Crowd complaining about ads on YouTube. It literally costs(1 month sub) less than typing a comment like this…
For me, the biggest plus of YouTube Premium is supporting the creators. Almost every initiative to pay a large number of blogs and creators at once has failed because it's too difficult to get them all to sign on and distribute money to all of them. YouTube is a monopoly for better and worse, so it was easier for them to implement ad-free for almost every video creator.
I wish Google Contributor could live up to the same promise, but Google killed it and replaced it with a different version. It made you a participant in the bidding process for your own ad views. So unless an advertiser was bidding a crazy amount of money, you would win the bid and an empty ad (or no ad at all) would load instead. Like YouTube Premium, this took advantage of the existing ad payment infrastructure while removing almost all the ads from your pages and videos.
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#587Wait, cerators can choose whether there are ads? Meaning every time I see an ad before a video it’s because the uploader thought it’s worth making $0.50 a year?
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#588Having youtube premium is definitely the biggest time saver for me. Other than not showing ads, lets you listen to videos like a podcast on mobile in background. For podcasts that also posts youtube videos, I just use youtube since it lets me see reactions when I want to from podcasters. I never understand HN Crowd complaining about ads on YouTube. It literally costs(1 month sub) less than typing a comment like this…
Google is already making money by raping privacy. Why should we keep advocating additional streams of revenue? I'd gladly pay for google's services as long as they pay me for the data they steal. My data is worth a lot more to me than some bandwidth costs.
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#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Creators" went for direct monetisation because de-monetisation can happen on youtube for almost any arbitrary reason and there is almost no way to contact a human (as far as I am aware) to remedy such a situation.
Yeah, and I think this drives the point home even further. You really want a risk mitigation strategy for YouTube's hostile actions against creators. It's been a slow but steady creep. So, if your business is built off the back of something like Facebook, or YouTube, or Instagram, you probably want a backup plan. I've seen a few YouTubers have a centralized site for signups and support where they host all their conte…
Can creators self-host videos on their personal website and push that video to Youtube for their subscribers? That way, they can direct users who don't want ads to their website. Then they are not completely dependent on YT, FB, etc.
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>Without content creators Without content creators who refuse to allow ads in exchange for free hosting, is it nothing? Probably not, most creators do enjoy making money, and most of the ones putting out content for free, but without ads, will struggle to find a competitor who will indefinitely provide free hosting. >4-5 billion dollars per quarter In revenue, not profit. Very, very important distinction.
I mean... you take the good with the bad to get the breadth and depth in your platform. You make a shitload of money on PewDiePie and nothing on Mieleman (sorry; I forget the name of the German guy who posts videos of washing machine cycles), and balance the two. It's not difficult. ~~Okay then, 15 billion in profits last year. I'm no businessman but to me that's pretty damn good profits with those revenue numbers.~~…
https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/4/21121370/youtube-advertisi...
Well according to this $8.5 billion of that is given to creators. Leaving 6.5 billion for hosting costs, development, and all the management that goes with a platform of that size. About 2.8 billion hours were spent watching youtube in 2019.