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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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This is not workable in Germany. There are huge fines for running YouTube businesses without putting business details at every location your video appears on the internet. German State administrators have sent out such fines simply because videos made in Germany (even in English) which have advertising do not carry such additional business information. These administrators will not know, nor care if you are in the Yo…

Can't you just put your business information at the start/end of your videos?

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If their skill is to create popular videos, they did not had much choice. It is not like there would be other popular video services that would compete. For many of them, it is youtube or nothing.

> For many of them, it is youtube or nothing. Is this really true? I mean, there are hundreds of video hosting sites, is YT really the only way of making any money? This is like saying that the only way to make your business sustainable is to get a reserved place on NY Times Square... are you really entitled to it?

I don't know about hundreda of video hosting sites. I know aboit two: youtube and twitch. I tried something else maybe twice.

I am pretty representative for typical user. Typical user turns on yoitube and only things in there exists.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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YouTube premium gets rid of all the ads, unless creators have embedded them in the video. There is lots of good content for toddlers on YouTube, but it is unwatchable with ads. I watch more myself now all the ads are gone, plus you get youtube music, not as good as spotify but good enough.

How is the mobile experience for YT Music? Looking at switching, I imagine they have the desktop experience down. I love Spotify, but I can't imagine a worse experience outside of their mobile app. The web player was nice but fails to load music two-three times per listening session (to be fair, they are usually 5-8hrs), the desktop application is slow, clunky, and will regularly not play music I have downloaded.

There are three deal breakers for me.

1) You can't organize Albums by artist. 2) Your Youtube (video) likes are included in the pool of liked songs in the music app. 3) Artists you are subscribed to in the music app are included in your Youtube (video) subscriptions.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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They are responsive. They'll push ads at them to the limit of their endurance, then back off a smidgen and call it good.

And isn't that the same story in any business? They'll raise costs to the limit of customers' endurance, or else reduce quality to compensate? If there is a problem then the problem is Google. I don't think this can be blamed on just the ad-driven profit model.

Not a business that is purportedly just a publisher. The channel creators were told they could choose their ad model. That was contradicted by this decision.

Imagine your letter carrier started stamping Aunt Agatha's letters with car ads or whatever.

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> costs would be in terms of 100s of EUR per month Personally, I don't consider it a valid point. It only costs so much to share some data because of massive centralization by the likes of Google and ISPs, and can only be sustained because of t sustained because these "subsidies" from large players. It's not technically hard to distribute some videos efficiently, but the market is less than 1/10000. Maybe in 5 years…

shrug These were the prices before YouTube really became big and were still the prices after they became big. I've worked in video streamin industry in years and I haven't seen YouTube be the fault of the high costs. It mostly comes from the fact that videos are large, they need a lot of CPU power to convert and need a lot of bandwidth to transmit to clients.

There was a time when downloading movies took hours, or even days. Nowadays, you can stream via popcorn time for basically free¹.

As for CPU, storage - I don't think 10+ different formats at extreme compression are a hard requirement.

Youtube ads are good, as people will have incentive to use peertube and similar.

¹ You need some seeds, but they don't need Tbps pipes.

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Have you considered paying for YouTube Premium?

This was my first thought as well. Both coursera and audiobooks are not free or ad-supported. Would these paid alternatives be as attractive if they had ad-supported options? I watch more youtube than any other video platform and I am happy to pay the $13/month to be ad free. Is it a sustainable business model? That’s for the bean counters at Alphabet to know. For now, I am content.

I was happily a subscriber, but like most things Google does, they decided to switch things up for the sake of different. What I don't like about paying $18/mo for Youtube (family) is that they are still collecting truckloads of data about me and using it to target MORE advertisements.

If I pay for a service, it my expectation that you provide me a way to opt out of your additional revenue opportunities. To that end, $18/mo for premium is gouging, in my mind. The fact that Youtube is implementing even more ads tells me the service is bleeding customers or cash, maybe both, and Google is handling this by making the barriers HIGHER.

Google has their hooks deep enough into most people - charge $3.99/mo for an ad-free experience and grow the subscriber base.

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As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Unfortunately, I use YoutubeVanced to block ads on my Android. Background playback is a plus. No root required.

https://vancedapp.com/

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Reddit recently limited the number of comments you can read in Safari on iOS devices. Click "more" and you are prompted to create an account or go to their app. It's been fantastic. Reddit comments decrease rapidly in quality anyway, but I was unable to look away. Now I'm capped - one or two scrolls and I have to go find something more rewarding to do. Thanks reddit!

I had an iPHone for a few months and noticed my reddit time dropped considerably. Part of it was because iPhone (or Reddit? I don't even know who is to blame here) wouldn't let me choose the reddit app I wanted as the default. If a friend sent a reddit link to me it'd try and open in Safari and I'd get annoyed and just ignore it. I'm back on Android now where I can choose default apps and now if a friend sends a link…

I browse Reddit on iPhone with Apollo. Free account, so can't post but can read anything there, and no ads. If they mess that up too, I'll give up on Reddit for the iPhone.
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