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Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#111
Ha ha, reminds me of my post from 4 years ago. I had just released PropertyWebBuilder and I was a bit wound up by the Trump election so I asked this question:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13250450

The feedback was overall negative but I have a feeling if I asked that again today it might be a bit different.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#112
post #30

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He was targeted, and beheaded, for showing Mohammed drawings on class (above it sounds like “a victim”, not the victim).

For a broader context, 16 years earlier something very similar happened in the Netherlands: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Theo_van_... “The murderer Mohammed Bouyeri, an Islamic extremist, killed van Gogh. The reason for murdering Gogh was to oppose the controversial film which criticised Islam: “Submission”. Bouyeri shot and stabbed van Gogh, then cut his throat. Finally the killer attached a 5…

Why you talk about things happened few years ago? The act of terror occurred at least once per three day.

>> From 2016 to 2018, Spain had the most court cases for terror offences (343) in the EU, followed by the UK (329), France (327) and Belgium (301). >> In 2018, 61% of verdicts for those cases in EU states were classed as "jihadist terror offences" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51560046

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#113
post #112
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a broader context, 16 years earlier something very similar happened in the Netherlands: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Theo_van_... “The murderer Mohammed Bouyeri, an Islamic extremist, killed van Gogh. The reason for murdering Gogh was to oppose the controversial film which criticised Islam: “Submission”. Bouyeri shot and stabbed van Gogh, then cut his throat. Finally the killer attached a 5…

Why you talk about things happened few years ago? The act of terror occurred at least once per three day. >> From 2016 to 2018, Spain had the most court cases for terror offences (343) in the EU, followed by the UK (329), France (327) and Belgium (301). >> In 2018, 61% of verdicts for those cases in EU states were classed as "jihadist terror offences" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51560046

Just because the killing of van Gogh predates today more known 2005 event (1) the first publishing of the caricatures which Samuel Paty discussed in his class, and also significantly predates the mere existence of ISIS, while still being very similar to the 2020 murder.

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_carto...

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#114
post #73

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Why is it any more of an issue in software engineering than, say, a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

Those are even worse. Why can't we let political discourse stay in political spaces? That used to be the norm and everyone was far less stressed out and amicable for it. Now every space has become a battleground for sociopolitical discourse and we're drawing lines everywhere.

>> a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

> Those are even worse.

What? Music and acting are and have always been involved with politics and society at large. As a modern example, see One by Metallica.

Is that not political?

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#116
post #73

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Why is it any more of an issue in software engineering than, say, a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

Those are even worse. Why can't we let political discourse stay in political spaces? That used to be the norm and everyone was far less stressed out and amicable for it. Now every space has become a battleground for sociopolitical discourse and we're drawing lines everywhere.

In what that timeframe do you see that as having been the norm?

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

#117
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it any more of an issue in software engineering than, say, a singer or actor publicly supporting a cause?

Those are even worse. Why can't we let political discourse stay in political spaces? That used to be the norm and everyone was far less stressed out and amicable for it. Now every space has become a battleground for sociopolitical discourse and we're drawing lines everywhere.

To me, it's an integral part of celebrity. We expect them to be role models, give up their privacy and generally hold them to higher standards, so why shouldn't they be able to use their fame to support something they believe in?

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

> I persoanlly feel that publicly mixing work and politics is immature and bad for your resume, but to each his own. I think your opinion here is a commonly held one, which I find increasingly frustrating and bizarre. I personally feel that work and politics are by definition inextricably linked, and attempting to separate them as some sanctimonious attempt at taking moral highground is naïve (at best, insincere at w…

This is an opinion commonly held by people that know that if you want to coexist peacefully with other people it's better to not talk about politics, religion (and money if you're French).

If nobody ever settled the Vi vs Emacs debate there's absolutely 0 chances we're going to settle more complexes debates with real life implications so it's better for everyone's enjoyment of our global community if we could agree to keep politics were they belong and not everywhere.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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I'm not French, but even if I were and were a NF voter, I doubt I would care about his political tweets let alone uninstall the software as a result. ...as someone not involved in that political fight, I slightly worry that this will serve as a distraction for him in future project development, maybe lead to a broken release or a dev path and force me to look for a new tool - zeal often crowds out focus. ...but hey,…

Since we're sharing our personal feelings: I agree that in general, waving your personal politics around for petty matters is not a good look. He's not waving his around for petty reasons.

> He's not waving his around for petty reasons.

Supporters of (in this case) the NF may thinks so, since "petty" is entirely subjective.

Re: Notepad++ 7.9.1 – pour Samuel Paty

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English articles "a" and "the" are weird. I'll never understand them.

Specificity. "The" implies one specific subject. "A" implies that there are multiple instances of the subject, and in many cases such subjects are used to categorize things. "The dog is a golden retriever." --. "The dog" is the specific dog being mentioned, and "a golden retriever" is its category. "He was the victim" implies he was the only victim. "He was a victim" implies that there were other victims. What's your…

This is a good general rule but this still breaks down. For instance, I say "I'm going to the bank". But really this means "I'm going to a branch of the bank that I bank with". The same occurs with words like theatre, mall, etc. I kind of think this is a holdover from a time where towns only had one theatre, one bank, one school, etc.

It would be correct to have a conversation like:

> Let's go to the mall.

> Which one?

> I don't know. Do you have a preference?

Then we have places like "school", "work", "home" where we drop the "the". If we say "I'm going to the school" this implies that we're going for a different reason than normal where we'd say "I'm going to school".

Proper names don't usually have "the" in front of them but then we say "The Ukraine" and "The Philippines" and "The Yukon" as if we're distinguishing them from other Ukraines.

My wife is non-native English speaker so I encounter this a lot. I understand the confusion of this. Plus a lot of other languages don't think this way. When you grow up in a language where you don't care about specificity while you're talking, it becomes pretty difficult to start thinking about it later in life.

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