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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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If let's say that google charges 1$ (or more, adjust yourself) per gb of stored video, or 1$ per 20gb of bandwidth use to opt out of ads, will it be better?

Speaking for myself, I would be willing to pay YouTube to opt out of ads. I post mostly classical music videos, which are totally ruined if video advertisements are inserted in the middle. (Granted, YouTube doesn't seem to do that to classical music videos quite as much as it used to.) I'm already paying Vimeo for a low-budget data plan, and I only continue to use YouTube as my main platform because of the extra expo…

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Most of the creators I watch are switching to a combination of Patreon and in-video advertising "reads" (have you heard about Kiwi Co?!?) both of which cut Google out of the equation so it's not too surprising to me Google is cranking up the dial on their own advertisements.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Hacker News User Will Continue to Run uBlock Origin on All Sites Including YouTube Even If Webmasters Don't Want Him To

I think technically it would be pretty easy for google to embed ads into videos in a way that would be hard to impossible to block.

Twitch literally started doing this a few weeks ago (unblockable ads embedded in the stream), but the geniuses of HN that downvoted you know better.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

What I find more concerning is many people will have uploaded videos with the understanding people could just watch them for free and then died. At which point YouTube is essentially monetizing dead people without paying their estates.

Are people going to need to stipulate in their will to delete all uploaded content to stop crap like this?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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It would be very expensive, though, as they would have to recode videos constantly. (Edit: my children comments are right)

At first I thought you had a point (and for practical purposes, perhaps you do) but I don't think it'd be particularly challenging to inject video frames into a stream without re-encoding the original video.

It’s not challenging.[a] ffmpeg can “join” streams back-to-back without reencoding if one desires.

[a]: This is assuming you know the magic incantation to get ffmpeg to do it

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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If you're referring to in-video ads, then no. At present, if you choose not to monetize a video, no ads get shown unless a third part makes a copyright claim on your video. I'm not quite sure about the situation with ads that show up in the corner of the page - those are unobtrusive enough that I'm used to mentally tuning them out.

> If you're referring to in-video ads, then no. Pardon me? I'm pretty sure that there are (occasional) in-video ads for channels not under YPP and explicitly-demonetized YPP videos even before 2020. (and I'm pretty sure that they were in no way claimed by others at all)

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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What do you mean by gmail subs?

Sounds like he's suggesting that you'll soon be required to pay for it.

You are already paying for it with massive crawling of your personal information.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Hacker News User Will Continue to Run uBlock Origin on All Sites Including YouTube Even If Webmasters Don't Want Him To

Thereby Making it Worse for Everyone Else. Indiscriminate measures don't provide helpful information. Support videos that have acceptable ads. Don't support ones that don't. Downvote them, comment, and, most importantly, be willing not to watch them, ever. YouTube can learn, much like a dog, as long as the feedback is clear and swift

YouTube doesn't have any acceptable ads.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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> If you're referring to in-video ads, then no. Pardon me? I'm pretty sure that there are (occasional) in-video ads for channels not under YPP and explicitly-demonetized YPP videos even before 2020. (and I'm pretty sure that they were in no way claimed by others at all)

Examples? Happy to be proven wrong on this.

For longer videos, YouTube tends to put not just an ad or two at the beginning, but also in the middle of the video. It can be pretty jarring to be listening to a quiet video, and then 10 minutes in, an obnoxiously loud ad starts playing.

No idea if the creators opt in to this “feature” (I bet they don’t; it’s probably either all or nothing with ads), but it definitely exists.

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