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The mainstream media is a trustworthy source regarding election fraud and Antifa's terrorist activities? And "Breitbart are a disgusting organization whose aim is misinformation"? It's not so much that the main stream media outlets lie about facts. They misrepresent them because they have a bias and a specific opinion on matters that it's so obvious to anyone that isn't on the left. Which is why people flock to other…

The left actually has the same criticisms of the mainstream media as the right does, though usually on other subjects. The media in the US has an extreme centrist position on most issues, leaning to the right on foreign policy and immigration (with no exceptions), but to the left on social issues (with notable exceptions such as Fox News). I stand by my characterization of Breitbart though - they absolutely knowingly…

> I stand by my characterization of Breitbart though - they absolutely knowingly lie about facts.

I can agree, once I did my own research and found them misrepresenting facts; during the refugee crisis, a Breitbart headline said something along the lines of "x hundred thousand crimes committed by refugees in Germany". I looked at the source/googled the number and found the source government press release, it was the number of people entering the country without permit, of course that's against the (German) law, but a refugee has to per default do this to enter somewhere and claim refugee status (unless they're the kind of refugee that could get plane tickets to a destination country willing to issue them entry visas -- but surely no EU embassy thought "Ah here are some Syrians wanting to visit as tourists for a week, give them visas.").

Obviously the Breitbart article didn't mention this detail, leaving the details of the "crimes" committed to the imagination of their readers...

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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post #536

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I do not know why Google blocks pro-russian sources, but I know why I'd blocked them, if I could. They are not "pro-russian", they are all "pro-Putin". Any "pro-russian" source that is not "pro-Putin" will become "anti-russian" in a short time, because of activity of other "pro-russian" sources. They just forcibly stick "anti-russian" label on such a source, and here we are. Putin do all he could, to draw an equality…

There's one clear sign that you can find on any Russian anti-Putin and/or pro-liberal blog or channel: that Russian people are lazy, stupid, alcoholics and drug addicts, that Russians never invented anything (all the technology at all times was stolen from Europe and USA), Russia never won any war (including WWII that was "won" exclusively by USA), etc. They go even as far as to declare Russian language "stupid and b…

> Russia never won any war (including WWII that was "won" exclusively by USA), etc.

Russia didn't take part in WW2. USSR did.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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The US wasn't in Ukraine to promote democracy. Maybe it was a reaction to Crimea, perhaps they wanted to hinder the pipeline between Germany and Russia, maybe they just wanted influence in another eastern European state, but I am certainly not surprised the conflict is escalating. We are regressing to cold war thinking and while I think Putin is a despot, I see the actions of the US very critically. Sad really, since…

US/Europe staged a coup in Ukraine before Crimea. Actually, it wasn't even the first coup staged by US in Ukraine.

True, and Crimea was a reaction to that. The EU or some member sates might have been involved here too, because EU association was the goal and it is convenient to blame everything on the US.

The pipeline might have been the reason all along for energy independence from Russia. I wouldn't know on whom to be angry if I were someone from Ukraine, but I would certainly be angry.

But people blaming Russian bots on Twitter can only be called low information voters in my opinion.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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post #566

The big problem in todays age is we can no longer assume the government is accountable to us, or even get straight answers from the right people there. Why can't I ask someone at the government directly exactly what their policy is on blocking websites, which sites are blocked, and what the legal basis for blocking is? And get a real, detailed, authoritative answer? And contest that answer if it does not meet legal s…

Before getting outraged, can we first confirm the story? It seems European countries have blocked gambling ads. There is no source for other claims e.g. human rights website.

They are litterally mentioning Norwegian ISPs blocking "Human Rights Watch" right in the next sentence after talking about blocking gambling ads.

Am I missing something or how is the one sentence a source and the next one isn't?

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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post #566

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Before getting outraged, can we first confirm the story? It seems European countries have blocked gambling ads. There is no source for other claims e.g. human rights website.

They are litterally mentioning Norwegian ISPs blocking "Human Rights Watch" right in the next sentence after talking about blocking gambling ads. Am I missing something or how is the one sentence a source and the next one isn't?

If you look further down in this comment thread, that claim has been repeatedly debunked, likewise for Match.com. These sites have never been on any widely adopted DNS blacklist in Norway. It appears censoredplanet analyzed data from a corporate-only ISP.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Which NYT articles were blocked on Facebook?

At least an "questionably sourced article that made incriminating claims about Joe Biden and his son Hunter".

Which is quite of importance if they are true (It looks like that to be honest, but the involvement of family matters should not have happened). It is highly relevant to developments in Europe and the relationship to Russia.

It is silly that Trump was accused of what Biden is probably guilty of. That is a point where you loose me even if there are understandable objections to Trump. He didn't start shit like that at least.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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post #199

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Politics is generally off-topic here other than in a few specific posts that are explicitly allowed because they're so newsworthy, like the death of RBG and the media calling the election.

I think the fact that politics can't be discussed here is itself a form of censorship. Because people are not able to freely exchange ideas about politics, you end up with silos. The main reason why the subject of politics causes flame wars is because people are thinking about it emotionally because they have very little actual information to work with. The less sharing of information there is on the subject, the mor…

Politics can be discussed here. It's that most users don't want to discuss it. They know that most political discussions turn into flame wars and they would rather not have HN be a place of flame.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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post #536

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I do not know why Google blocks pro-russian sources, but I know why I'd blocked them, if I could. They are not "pro-russian", they are all "pro-Putin". Any "pro-russian" source that is not "pro-Putin" will become "anti-russian" in a short time, because of activity of other "pro-russian" sources. They just forcibly stick "anti-russian" label on such a source, and here we are. Putin do all he could, to draw an equality…

There's one clear sign that you can find on any Russian anti-Putin and/or pro-liberal blog or channel: that Russian people are lazy, stupid, alcoholics and drug addicts, that Russians never invented anything (all the technology at all times was stolen from Europe and USA), Russia never won any war (including WWII that was "won" exclusively by USA), etc. They go even as far as to declare Russian language "stupid and b…

> There's one clear sign that you can find on any Russian anti-Putin and/or pro-liberal blog or channel[...]

> Why would a sane person call his nation "stupid alcoholics using barbaric language"?..

Oh, yeah. Lets label any anti-Putin person as insane.

What are you trying to do? Are you trying to get ban from `dang`, so you could then talk about bloody censorship on HN? "HackerNews is a branch of CIA/MI-6", isn't it?

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