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Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by donor20 »

generalk wrote: post #35

Booted the new GPay app on my Android phone this morning. "Sorry, Enterprise accounts are not supported on Google Pay." I've been doing NFC payments through Google Pay for years with the current Google Pay app, so this is kind of a surprise. Also, I do not have an "Enterprise account." I have a GAFYD account from around 2006. Over time Google's turned it into some limited bullshit account, and at this point I'd pay t…

Hey, glad I'm not alone!

Can't use business calendars on my google home (so switched to Alexa which DOES support them oddly despite whatever mumbo jumbo google says).

Can't share home setup to my wife.

A variety of family sharing issues.

I mean, your evangalists (in addition to an actual business domain with big bucks I pay for gsuite for myself for little bucks) are locked out.

It really brings home how google never actually finishes / gets the final 10-20% done and working, stuff just goes to zombieland.

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by donor20 »

If you are on an iphone 12 the difference between native apps (liquid smooth so far in my experience - basically perfect) and flutter apps is striking!

Get ready for JANK on iOS. Or maybe just me. Flutter looks cool, but they really should make iOS a first class target platform at some point.

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by pmoriarty »

sorenjan wrote: post #42

I see that they've added integrated chat. If Google would've had a coherent chat app strategy they could've integrated it there, but I guess separate chats in every app is almost as good. There's no chance I'd use a service like this from Google by the way. I would probably had been interested if it had come from Google 15 years ago, but they have too much badwill since then, with all their cancelled services and sto…

Google's brand has become synonymous with privacy violation.

Their services are designed to suck everything knowable about you like an information vampire.

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by tadfisher »

qmarchi wrote: post #14
kyrra wrote: post #2

(Googler, opinions are my own. I also work on backend payment systems there). Also, this is a copy/paste from the other thread that never hit the front-page. A fun technical piece here is that this expands on the Google Pay for India app, which is built on Flutter for android and iOS[0]. As well, it's great to see Plex (bank accounts) officially announced, though it was talked about ~1 year ago here[1]. [0] https://d…

(Googler, opinions are my own. I work in Cloud) I've been using the new pay app, linked with my personal account on Simple, and have been stunned with how well it determines what businesses I'm paying. Splitting bills is nice too :P

Simpleton working on the Android client here. You guys did a decent job! The Plaid flow is a little quirky, but it's like that for us as well.

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by troughway »

So Google finally forced my hand yesterday regarding the Google Play Music closing. I’ll be moving to Apple Music or whatever it’s called.

Like most of the other people here, I have zero faith in that company running a project for any reasonable amount of time.

All the “Googlers” here should stop hiding behind their monitors every time a bad story comes out, and show some spine once in awhile.

It’s all fun and games when a product is launched. How about you show some initiative when we tell you to quit shutting shit down. Or is that suddenly not your problem?

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by achow »

sorenjan wrote: post #42

I see that they've added integrated chat. If Google would've had a coherent chat app strategy they could've integrated it there, but I guess separate chats in every app is almost as good. There's no chance I'd use a service like this from Google by the way. I would probably had been interested if it had come from Google 15 years ago, but they have too much badwill since then, with all their cancelled services and sto…

This should not be seen as chats, but transaction documentation.

The dialogs associated with informal or semi-formal transactions may not belong in your personal chat space; quite often that set of dialogs exists only before and during the transactions and never after that.

> ..but they have too much badwill since then..

Google pay is the market leader in India in fintech. It is perhaps most trusted brand. The notion of "Google is evil", "Kills of products so would not use its services" only exist in HN bubble, if we leave this space and go to emerging markets Google absolutely rules.

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by visarga »

d1zzy wrote: post #27
klipt wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, when a normal bank closes your account, you can open one at another bank. Google closes your bank account, you potentially lose your email, passwords, contacts, documents...

To take this comparison further: you still need to transfer your assets out of the first bank, otherwise you lose all of that. Similarly you would need to get your digital assets out of Google, using Takeout. But not sure if Takeout is a service you can access when Google Account is locked, if not, it should be.

You need more than takeout. There should be a grace period when you're allowed to switch your accounts that rely on the Gmail address before they kill it. Maybe at first they could block only the sending of emails so you could still receive confirmation emails.

By the way, why is closing an account a practice instead of closing just the sending of emails?

Re: Google Pay reimagined: pay, save, manage expenses and more

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Post by stubish »

emmelaich wrote: post #72
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #5

Google already has too much info from email, location tracking, and search history. Getting into bank accounts is too much. It would let them know exactly how effective advertising is since they would see how money is spent and they already know what advertisements they show you. Sorry, but no. Hard pass from me.

They say never, which seems pretty categorical to me. > Google Pay will never sell your data to third parties or share your transaction history with the rest of Google for targeting ads.

So they will give the data to a third party for free or in a non-monetary exchange? Say data swaps with Mastercard and Visa? Or hand off the data without the constraints to a subsidiary?

Needs to be a little more categorical.

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