NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
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Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#2Expect the standard 'Mistakes made, Accidental access, Lessons Learned & Never happen again' response from the NSA.
And this only a mere 5 years after [1] " American spies may have snooped on Angela Merkel's mobile phone for more than ten years, according to reports in Germany."
Lessons Learned, Accidental, Never Happen Again etc etc indeed.
[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nsa-allegati...
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#3Expect the standard 'Mistakes made, Accidental access, Lessons Learned & Never happen again' response from the NSA. And this only a mere 5 years after [1] " American spies may have snooped on Angela Merkel's mobile phone for more than ten years, according to reports in Germany." Lessons Learned, Accidental, Never Happen Again etc etc indeed. [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nsa-allegati...
The US is thoroughly corrupt and immoral, mostly in the name of cold war morality. It's allies would be wise to reconsider who we truly are.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#4Expect the standard 'Mistakes made, Accidental access, Lessons Learned & Never happen again' response from the NSA. And this only a mere 5 years after [1] " American spies may have snooped on Angela Merkel's mobile phone for more than ten years, according to reports in Germany." Lessons Learned, Accidental, Never Happen Again etc etc indeed. [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nsa-allegati...
The US is thoroughly corrupt and immoral, mostly in the name of cold war morality. It's allies would be wise to reconsider who we truly are.
Maybe.
But evvvveryone spies on everyone, except those who cannot muster the resources to do so. It is entirely expected, by allies and enemies alike.
Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake.
Geopolitics is not for nice people.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#5In this post-Snowden revelations world isn't it wise to assume the NSA is spying on absolutely everything and everyone they possibly can with the goal of strategic, military and financial gain of the USA?
I mean.... that's their job, and we know they have the tools to do it.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US is thoroughly corrupt and immoral, mostly in the name of cold war morality. It's allies would be wise to reconsider who we truly are.
Maybe. But evvvveryone spies on everyone, except those who cannot muster the resources to do so. It is entirely expected, by allies and enemies alike. Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake. Geopolitics is not for nice people.
I am sorry but for me there is a difference between, let's spy those Iranians to see what they're up to and, spy that Japanese company to steal secrets for its American competitor.
> Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake.
OK, cool, but this can be applied then to not only spying, this can be used to justify ANYTHING done by a government.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US is thoroughly corrupt and immoral, mostly in the name of cold war morality. It's allies would be wise to reconsider who we truly are.
Maybe. But evvvveryone spies on everyone, except those who cannot muster the resources to do so. It is entirely expected, by allies and enemies alike. Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake. Geopolitics is not for nice people.
> Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake
It seems like we need moral people in leadership positions around world the at the top who don't care about game theory. Game theory is a curse that needs to be eliminated. Prisoner's dilemma does no one good.
The biggest impediment to trust is non trustworthy people at top.
Geopolitics IS for nice people, we just need to make sure nice people are involved in geopolitics and make it to the top. I know people with power who have been absolutely moral despite no oversight. The could've given their children or themselves so much benefit but they did everything for collective good of everyone. People like that exist, but they also prefer hanging out with people like them. Not opportunists. Humans win collectively with cooperation.
The other option is going backwards and tribal.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#8News today: Spy agency spies.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#9Expect the standard 'Mistakes made, Accidental access, Lessons Learned & Never happen again' response from the NSA. And this only a mere 5 years after [1] " American spies may have snooped on Angela Merkel's mobile phone for more than ten years, according to reports in Germany." Lessons Learned, Accidental, Never Happen Again etc etc indeed. [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nsa-allegati...
The US is thoroughly corrupt and immoral, mostly in the name of cold war morality. It's allies would be wise to reconsider who we truly are.
Yes, especially compared to the historical paragon of virtue that is Denmark.
Re: NSA Spied on Denmark as It Chose Its Future Fighter Aircraft: Report
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US is thoroughly corrupt and immoral, mostly in the name of cold war morality. It's allies would be wise to reconsider who we truly are.
Maybe. But evvvveryone spies on everyone, except those who cannot muster the resources to do so. It is entirely expected, by allies and enemies alike. Setting a moral example by Doing the Right Thing would be a ridiculously huge mistake. Geopolitics is not for nice people.
Tbh the USA has some agreements exclusively with the UAE and Israel that they don't spy on them and stuff like that. They just write out "monitoring reports" from their embassies.