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Openstreetmap is having a moment

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Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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I had to look up "having a moment" in American. In British English it means being distracted, having a brain-fade, being a bit down. I think this article probably means the opposite...

In American English it can mean either. Usually the use you mentioned would be if you said "I'm having a moment" or something along those lines.

"Needing a moment" or "I need a moment" in American English is the negative version.

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

#22

"If you’ve ever ... peaked at the dash of your obnoxious neighbor’s new Tesla…you’ve used OSM." 1. peeked, not peaked 2. Teslas do not use OSM for the on-screen maps. They use Google maps. Tesla only uses OSM for the data regarding parking lot layouts for the automatic parking features, nothing else.

Ah ha! Thanks, I will make a note of it.

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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Hello, HN. On the rare occasion my writing has appeared on the front page, the tone of some anonymous commenters has left me feeling indignant. Last time, someone called me a dog.

Please keep in mind that a fellow human wrote this piece! You don't have to be nice, but at least be constructive.

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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Hello, HN. On the rare occasion my writing has appeared on the front page, the tone of some anonymous commenters has left me feeling indignant. Last time, someone called me a dog. Please keep in mind that a fellow human wrote this piece! You don't have to be nice, but at least be constructive.

The internet is the birth place and death place of lots of people's hopes and dreams for making humanity better :)

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

#25

Hello, HN. On the rare occasion my writing has appeared on the front page, the tone of some anonymous commenters has left me feeling indignant. Last time, someone called me a dog. Please keep in mind that a fellow human wrote this piece! You don't have to be nice, but at least be constructive.

The internet is the birth place and death place of lots of people's hopes and dreams for making humanity better :)

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19

In 2004 when that was published it had already been true since, in my opinion, at least 1996...

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it potentially the opposite? If an independent, volunteer mapper contributes a poor edit, someone from the community has to reach out to them individually. This is hard since there's no prior relationship, and no expectation that the person will even take any advice on editing. Contrast that to a major corporate contributor: the people leading these corporate mapping teams are all talking. Both to each other, a…

The energy you put in helping a new volunteer mapper along rewards the project in the long run for those who become long-term (semi) frequent contributors. With a corporate mapper you either hit a wall of misunderstanding due to limited English and, excepting English, no map-local language skills, and any time you invest in that mapper is limited in effect, because retention at such jobs seems low. Some companies do…

The company in question is Rocketdata.io.

You pretty much summed up their incompetent modus operandi, let me just add they're a company that maintains a presence of their clients (e.g. retail) at various online maps and business directories alike.

See also [1]

Having said that, the tool that they use to conflate customers' data with OSM data [2] is interesting, even if it comes with minor performance problems when listing all projects. (Currently returns 502 error, worked fine a few days ago).

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Rocket...

[2] https://osm.rocketdata.io/

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

#27

One minor nitpick: measuring the output of a mapper is hard to do on the basis of the number of edits. Local mappers appear to have larger edits where many details in a neighbourhood or some topical regional updates are performed. I think corporate editors focus on fixing bugs and weirdness reported by linters, which are much smaller in scale in terms of changeset size.

Not a nitpick at all--interesting observation. Can you think of a better metric by which to measure contributions? (I'm truly asking out of ignorance)

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In American English it can mean either. Usually the use you mentioned would be if you said "I'm having a moment" or something along those lines.

"Needing a moment" or "I need a moment" in American English is the negative version.

"I'm having a moment" (I'm being dumb, I was being thoughtless, I am confused) and "I need a moment" mean two different negative things to this American.

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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post #17

I have questions about OSM: 1. Is there any decent OSM app for Windows10 (good UI and offline capabilities is a must-have) 2. How can I display Russian/Chinese/Arabic city names in English? 3. If I create an OSM account will I be able to save routes and addresses? Edit: Thanks for answers.

2: The base map on openstreetmap.org renders the local name (endonym), but places above a certain size tend to have English names or romanisations tagged in the data as well. You could try one of the many apps or alternative websites. Remember that OSM is just the database; the data can be rendered in many ways.

3: No, that is a feature you can find in some of the many OSM clients. Osmand is popular I believe.

Re: Openstreetmap is having a moment

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Hello, HN. On the rare occasion my writing has appeared on the front page, the tone of some anonymous commenters has left me feeling indignant. Last time, someone called me a dog. Please keep in mind that a fellow human wrote this piece! You don't have to be nice, but at least be constructive.

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