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Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page. DDoS protection by Cloudflare They probably know what I think they can do to themselves.

Please don't complain about webpage infrastructure in the comments, it degrades the conversation as everyone has an opinion about Cloudflare and that becomes the topic instead of PlayStation games.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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Executives in big company cutting costs for whatever is not making immediate profit. One of those moments when you come to understand how out of touch they are with their audience. Gamers are nostalgic breed and PS1/2/3 made many childhood memories. Nintendo knows to capitalize on their history far better than Sony or Microsoft.

> Nintendo knows to capitalize on their history far better than Sony or Microsoft. Compared to Nintendo, Microsoft have no gaming history and Sony is not that better. Nintendo is the oldest of them, with a huge IP for pre-Playstation area (NES, SNES, GB, GBC, etc). Nintendo is the first to had the opportunity to provide its old games to its console (Wii virtual console). This implies it is the first to have to deal w…

The MS DOS and Windows platform hosted enormous amount of gaming history. It doesn't go back as far as Nintendo and they have no control over IP (due to open-garden nature of those OS-es), but the volume of games is huge. That's just a nitpick about first sentence, I agree with the rest of your post.

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The forced obsolescence of consoles is amazing. Now the new generation is advertising as one of their major achievements the retro-compatibility with the previous generation games, but what about PS3 or 360 games? Don't worry, you will have the option to pay again for the same game, maybe with new textures (but maybe not). At the same time, on PC I can play almost any game it has existed in PC history.

I don’t think I’ll ever understand people that buy consoles, especially for FPS games. The controls are terrible, the FPS is terrible, the display is probably terrible if they’re using a TV, and the number one reason I will never understand: paying money if you want to play multiplayer. So you’ve already paid money for the console, you paid an exorbitant price for a game that is rarely on sale, and now you have to pa…

>I don’t think I’ll ever understand people that buy consoles

They are flat-out easier to setup and maintain for the bulk of the customer base. For example, setting up multiple users (family accounts) is a breeze on my PS4 and Switch, because that is a use case they pay attention to.

Meanwhile over on my PC, Steam supports sharing (family view) but it only seems to work from the same base Windows account. What the hell is the point of that; if I'm not around the kids can download and install all kinds of crap (click OK on the near useless Windows UAC prompt???). Or, I can create their own Steam account and their own Windows account and do library sharing but then you share all the games, you can't pick what subset, what to include or exclude.

Two options, neither fully solving the problem.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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The forced obsolescence of consoles is amazing. Now the new generation is advertising as one of their major achievements the retro-compatibility with the previous generation games, but what about PS3 or 360 games? Don't worry, you will have the option to pay again for the same game, maybe with new textures (but maybe not). At the same time, on PC I can play almost any game it has existed in PC history.

Nobody’s going into your home and taking away your PS4. Nobody’s forcing you to buy a PS5.

You can still buy digital titles on the PS3, which came out 16 years ago!

Backwards compatibility was basically not even a thing until the 2000s. Now you’ve got the PS5 and Xbox Series sharing essentially the same underlying x86 architecture of the PS4 and Xbox One...kind of like a PC.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a pretty good list of backwards compatible 360 games that can be played on the modern Xbox consoles. Microsoft did the work in this case. Since it's different architectures there's a bit of work involved in making sure the compatibility layer works as expected. It's a technical achievement that they've been able to do it as good as this. There's also OG Xbox games available with a compatibility layer as well.…

It's actually amazing that Microsoft: - Paid developers to emulate a Pentium III (original xbox) on a PowerPC (360) in the first place - Subsequently paid developers to do the effective opposite - emulate PowerPC (360) on x86 (one, series) Also consider it's far easier to emulate an original xbox on a one/series than it was on a 360

Yeah amazing (me playing a DOS game on a FreeBSD PowerPC machine), Thanks anyway Microsoft ;)

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude, it was 9 years and two console generations ago. They had a serious security breach and it was pretty bad, for sure, and the service stayed down for a while. But Sony is not the first company to have a security breach. And under the circumstances, they did the right thing: shutting the service down entirely until it could be fixed was clearly the right call, but it was also clearly a very difficult call to make.…

And for the last 9 years I didn't buy any Sony anythings and I didn't get screwed by anything. Including this, because I already wrote them off a decade ago. Fool me once, etc. There's no coming back from a 23 day outage. Your comment is especially ironic considering the games you mention are among those that are no longer listed.

Your comments make you sound weirdly proud about doing this. So good for you (I guess), but it seems like the world has moved on.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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This post (or rather the original delistedgames article) is so unneccessary (although I guess most of the chat here is about backwards compatibility then the posted topic) because this is no surprise incident. Sony actually announced this was going to happen a few months ago and it was covered in a few prominent online gaming sites. The only thing Sony did was streamline their online store (no delisting going on) to focus on current and previous gen stuff. All the older stuff is still available on their respective console stores. So if you want to buy or browse PS3 games, you have to boot up your old PS3 and open the store, no big deal really to have to use the machine they play on to buy them. Very few websites will keep all the content live continuously just for the sake of it, they nearly all revamp and update occasionally, especially with new product/technology launches.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually amazing that Microsoft: - Paid developers to emulate a Pentium III (original xbox) on a PowerPC (360) in the first place - Subsequently paid developers to do the effective opposite - emulate PowerPC (360) on x86 (one, series) Also consider it's far easier to emulate an original xbox on a one/series than it was on a 360

Yeah amazing (me playing a DOS game on a FreeBSD PowerPC machine), Thanks anyway Microsoft ;)

Playing one DOS game. Not supporting a whole platform and the software developed for it with a multitude of stakeholders (consumers, game developers, game publishers), lots of contracts and responsibilities to be held against those contracts. Verifying if each game runs properly on the emulation layer or if there will be unforeseen bugs later in the game progression due to some weird combination of programming voodoo and the system.

I don't mean to say that given Microsoft's development power it's a massive achievement but it's an achievement and should be assessed objectively, not with snarky comments.

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