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Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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I don’t think I’ll ever understand people that buy consoles, especially for FPS games. The controls are terrible, the FPS is terrible, the display is probably terrible if they’re using a TV, and the number one reason I will never understand: paying money if you want to play multiplayer. So you’ve already paid money for the console, you paid an exorbitant price for a game that is rarely on sale, and now you have to pa…

To add to this, if you don’t play often enough, when you do want to jump on the couch and play with a friend, you have to wait 15 minutes for your console to upgrade.

Are you saying that PCs/games/Steam/ubisoftbsmanager/etc don't never have to upgrade in most inconvenient times? Beecause they certainly do.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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post #52

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You put discs in and play games. From that perspective you don’t need an internet connection. However, if you want to play blu ray movies, you need to connect it to the internet to download a license. Sadly.

> However, if you want to play blu ray movies, you need to connect it to the internet to download a license. Sadly. Just once.

Yes. Also this license is needed for DVD playback too.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

#93
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You put discs in and play games. From that perspective you don’t need an internet connection. However, if you want to play blu ray movies, you need to connect it to the internet to download a license. Sadly.

It's worth noting that with the prevalence of day-one patches these days, it's entirely possible that the code on the disk is a barely playable mess. It raises big concerns for archival—we'll eventually have high quality emulators for all of these systems, but to properly archive the games requires also archiving patches, which is difficult from both a logistical and copyright standpoint.

I might be wrong but it's not inconceivable that when newer batches of discs are manufactured they actually include the patches. Unless there's no more space, of course.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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post #65

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I don’t think I’ll ever understand people that buy consoles, especially for FPS games. The controls are terrible, the FPS is terrible, the display is probably terrible if they’re using a TV, and the number one reason I will never understand: paying money if you want to play multiplayer. So you’ve already paid money for the console, you paid an exorbitant price for a game that is rarely on sale, and now you have to pa…

Costs less, lets you kick back on a couch, setup and maintenance is a couple orders of less magnitude less complicated, much smaller attack surface for malware. Oh yeah, and the internet subscription also tends to come with a constant stream of free games. Every month there’s a couple new things to play that cost more than your month’s subscription.

>much smaller attack surface for malware.

Not really, consoles are now fully fledged X86_X64 PCs with closed source, security through obscurity OSs, similar to Windows and MacOS but with much more DRM to prevent you from running anything not signed by the manufacturer(cough, pirated content, cough).

You could say they're about the same risk in theory but malware on PC land hasn't been an issue in many years unless, as a user, you intentionally visit, download and run unknown stuff off dodgy torrents/pirate/p0rn websites, then nothing can really protect you.

The reason why consoles are "safer" is there's not much you can do with them other than access the manufacturer's "app store" which is thoroughly vetted, not because they have some security secret sauce that PCs don't have. Similarly, if you were to treat your PC like a console/tablet and only visit/download stuff off legitimate sources approved by the vendors then you're at no higher risk of malware.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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A PlayStation 5 is £450 and will smoothly play any game I buy for it. PlayStation+ for 7 years is £350. Total cost excluding games is £800 for 7 years of smooth gameplay. An £800 PC wouldn’t even play current games smoothly, never mind releases in 7 years.

>An £800 PC wouldn’t even play current games smoothly Why do people assume you need a million $ PC to play current games smoothly? Is it the tech youtubers/influencers like Linus to blame for this madness where everything needs to be run at 4k 300Hz ULTRA settings to count as PC gaming? PC gaming hardware for a good experience is more affordable than people think. A 850-900 Euro PC (for us over the channel) with an R…

He also forgot you can simply keep upgrading you PC, and your PC can play all your old games without having to repurchase them.

Also, if you added another $800 to your PC every 7 years it would still outperform a console.

Also a gaming PC is still a usable computer, a console is not. Therefore a home PC can pay for itself by letting you code on it or whatever it is you may do.

This is what worries me with younger generations.

Just the other day when google shut down google music a top comment was pretty much 'sorry boomers no one keeps mp3s anymore we all stream get lost dinosaurs'[1] as if that streaming service would always be there...in a thread about a huge music SAAS shutting down!

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25066751

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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The history hasn’t really been removed ; it’s just not being indexed from the main search box. And yeah, there’s an argument to be made that if there are no links to a thing that’s basically the same as that thing not existing and I do buy into that argument. But in this case, it seems to me like it’s as likely to be a mistake as anything else, seeing as the old pages themselves are still there and haven’t been remov…

It's alarmism/sensationalism/outrage journalism 101 See a recent issue, jump to conclusions, publish article, then request comment from the person/organisation who caused the outrage Profit $$$

outrage journalism 101

I think you're being too generous here. It's not even journalism. This is a web site set up just for this, it's not a journalistic publication. It's one guy making money off of other people's outrage.

I'd call it blogspam, but this guy doesn't even have a blog.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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>An £800 PC wouldn’t even play current games smoothly Why do people assume you need a million $ PC to play current games smoothly? Is it the tech youtubers/influencers like Linus to blame for this madness where everything needs to be run at 4k 300Hz ULTRA settings to count as PC gaming? PC gaming hardware for a good experience is more affordable than people think. A 850-900 Euro PC (for us over the channel) with an R…

He also forgot you can simply keep upgrading you PC, and your PC can play all your old games without having to repurchase them. Also, if you added another $800 to your PC every 7 years it would still outperform a console. Also a gaming PC is still a usable computer, a console is not. Therefore a home PC can pay for itself by letting you code on it or whatever it is you may do. This is what worries me with younger gen…

A lot of people want to play games on the couch with a controller, not hunched over a desk which is the typical pc experience.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You put discs in and play games. From that perspective you don’t need an internet connection. However, if you want to play blu ray movies, you need to connect it to the internet to download a license. Sadly.

It's worth noting that with the prevalence of day-one patches these days, it's entirely possible that the code on the disk is a barely playable mess. It raises big concerns for archival—we'll eventually have high quality emulators for all of these systems, but to properly archive the games requires also archiving patches, which is difficult from both a logistical and copyright standpoint.

Recent example: the Cyberpunk people announced the latest delay after the game had already gone gold. So they’re taking an extra 3 weeks to fix it, while also pressing discs that have none of those fixes.

Re: Games released before PS4 are no longer appearing in search on PlayStation.com

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I keep reading that it's difficult to emulate but the current Rpcs3 is doing great work at such a high pace https://youtu.be/MhLteF_xVi0

> I keep reading that it's difficult to emulate but the current Rpcs3 is doing great work at such a high pace The fact a 9 year old emulator with talented devs with successful patreon is doing great work at such a high pace doesn't invalidate the fact PS3 is a nightmare to emulate.

I generally agree, but it’s worth noting that rpcs3 has to reverse engineer everything. Any developer team working within Sony would likely have a much easier time.
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