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I had one and I loved it as well. > The nail in the coffin was Google refusing to write a Youtube app for Windows Phone and THEN blocking the app that MS wrote themselves. There were at least 2 great third party youtube apps and youtube worked well in the browser as well. Including background play support which seems not to work on other platforms easily.
It works very well on Android, but it is a feature exclusive to YouTube Premium.
World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
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Re: World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
#182This is why Windows on ARM has largely been doomed while Mac on ARM will immediately succeed: Apple told its partners that this is the future of the Mac and expected them to deliver if they intended to continue to be on Apple platforms. Microsoft has constantly and aggressively failed to commit. Be it to Mobile or ARM or HoloLens or whatever. They simply haven't made it clear that supporting their new platforms is co…
Apple own the whole vertical of their platform. Microsoft don't: they are in Google's position with Android, that they have to work with the third party hardware vendors and their value-subtracted software and so on.
Not true, Google just doesn't have to care what CPU is in your Phone.
You can have Mips/Arm/x86/powerpc whatever you want.
Re: World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
#183Just installed WoW on my M1 MBP and was blown away by the performance. I was running on battery, graphics set on max and the game was running 60fps without dropping a frame. And the fans never went on. How is this even possible on such a small machine? Here's a link for screenshots and video (notice how instant the game closes when exiting) https://www.notion.so/emads/MBP-M1-Chip-running-WoW-at-60fps...
That video is stuttering for me and it looks like you have about 10 fps, even when it's completely loaded (but I believe you, no worries, it's just funny) :P This is Chrome on Linux and I don't usually have problems with video, e.g. YouTube.
Re: World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
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From the way they have been selling in Europe, there is a very long path to go. Chromebooks are only relevant in US school system.
Chromebooks are actually widely used in schools in the Nordics.
Very few people are willing to pay the same price as a regular laptop for what seems just a big browser OS.
Re: World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
#186This is why Windows on ARM has largely been doomed while Mac on ARM will immediately succeed: Apple told its partners that this is the future of the Mac and expected them to deliver if they intended to continue to be on Apple platforms. Microsoft has constantly and aggressively failed to commit. Be it to Mobile or ARM or HoloLens or whatever. They simply haven't made it clear that supporting their new platforms is co…
No, this is not the reason. The reason is that Apple didn't half-ass anything, and they executed with competence. The Apple M1 is so good, it outperforms most everything else natively in single-thread, and every other previous x86-based MBP when using Rosetta, all the while offering superior battery life, and its not even that expensive because those are the entry-level models. Microsoft never had anything remotely l…
Re: World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
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I think one of the other reasons is that Apple designed their own cpus. And put a lot of effort in. Microsoft just grabbed some off the shelf stuff for the surface. So it’s not even close in terms of performance. Imagine if Microsoft said you could get a surface with arm processor, 16gb of ram, with 20+ hours of battery life and the same perf as an i5 processor. And it lived up to the hype. People would love it. My 2…
Surfaces are very, very custom. Their x86 versions even are almost entirely bespoke: There are custom Surface drivers for nearly every component. Their hardware team is top notch, and I guarantee you hardware is not where Microsoft is falling flat. The Surface Duo is another example: The hardware was ready for years. If it'd launched when it was, they'd have scooped the foldable trend super early. But the Windows on…
Yet almost all use Intel CPUs, and the performance of the Surface Go / Surface Go 2, is abysmal compared to the M1.
The Surface Pro X?
Single Core score ~800 vs ~1700 for the M1
Multi Core score ~3000 vs ~7500 for the M1
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4799088?baselin...
It's a ARMv8 CPU... How is it 'very custom'
Re: World of Warcraft 9.0.2 client runs natively on Apple Silicon
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Basically Apple is selling a cozy computing environment that some people really like, whereas the operating system division of Microsoft is selling a compatibility layer between a bazillion of long tail niche applications and every single piece of hardware in existence that isn't either significantly smaller or larger than a PC (phones, supercomputers) or made by Apple. If Microsoft had an LTS version of Windows 2000…
Microsoft should split windows into two distinct versions. Microsoft Windows Enterprise - focus on long term compatibility etc (essentially what windows is now) Microsoft Windows X (seeing as they like using that letter) - which is way friendlier to breaking changes and advancing the OS. I can't see any way for Windows to actually improve long term without doing this.
What I think could work, and would eventually lead to the same situation as "Enterprise/X" would be the reverse: a "regular" Windows aiming to eventually build a Microsoft equivalent of the Apple walled garden and a "continuity subscription" that's more conservative than what Windows is now (trivial example: opt into Cortana instead of opt out, barely)
PS: I understand that you are talking about low level technological differences and I seem to be hung up with UX, but I believe that separating groups on the high level would be the only viable way to eventually follow different paths on the low level.
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It’s probably more complicated than that: Microsoft’s customers have traditionally been very different from Apple’s, and they valued perpetual backwards compatibility over Apple’s approach.
Microsoft's main problem is marketing - to be more specific, a naming problem. Windows everywhere They doomed Windows phone with the name WINDOWS. Their windows on ARM, Win RT push was also handicapped and doomed the moment they named it Windows... Explanation. Windows means: 1. BSOD, instability, viruses, 2. Expectations of ability to run billions of existing windows software The first thing that popped in anyone's…
isn't Windows gaming the richest market for games since a proper market for games exists?