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Re: Airbnb S-1

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Post by fakedang »

wombatmobile wrote: post #445
fakedang wrote: post #423

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Wow, you're quite the sceptic lol. Good work there.

Well, there's no scepticism required. The Airbnb documentation for hosts explains how the pricing works, and it didn't work that way. It certainly didn't work like "Smart Pricing". Xmas/NYE is the middle of summer in Australia. My pad is right next to the beach in a nice part of South East Queensland, and everything like it is already booked out for Xmas. If you have access to my account data, which the support team…

Cool. You might want to let her know first before canceling, since I think she's on the shorter end of the stick here. After all, you'll get someone easily, going by the occupancy rates near yours.

Re: Airbnb S-1

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Post by dagw »

TrackerFF wrote: post #385
dustinmoris wrote: post #376

Personally I think AirBnb had its time. To me AirBnb is like a hotel, except: - No gym, sauna and other SPA facilities included - No breakfast buffet, restaurants or room service available - No room upgrades available - No early check in/late check out available - No 24/7 access available - No reception desk 24/7 available where I can ask for good recommendations, learn a bit more about the place without feeling awkw…

Airbnb is GREAT if you: - Want to rent an entire house in some specific area - Want to rent something as cheap as possible / on a strapped budget. Very cheap travel/plane tickets and accommodation has made international travel very accessible for a lot of people around the globe. So I can absolutely see why some people swear to using airbnb - but for me? I'll rather pay the extra $50 for a hotel room. That's chump ch…

Want to rent something as cheap as possible

I don't know about the US, but certainly in Europe a shared room in a hostel is always much cheaper than anything on AirBNB if you're really on a budget.

Re: Airbnb S-1

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Post by wombatmobile »

fakedang wrote: post #451
wombatmobile wrote: post #445

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Well, there's no scepticism required. The Airbnb documentation for hosts explains how the pricing works, and it didn't work that way. It certainly didn't work like "Smart Pricing". Xmas/NYE is the middle of summer in Australia. My pad is right next to the beach in a nice part of South East Queensland, and everything like it is already booked out for Xmas. If you have access to my account data, which the support team…

Cool. You might want to let her know first before canceling, since I think she's on the shorter end of the stick here. After all, you'll get someone easily, going by the occupancy rates near yours.

She is, yes. I did tell her right from the start that it's a mistake, and I need to get the correct price. She asked me to team up with her to ask Airbnb to compensate her i.e. pay the difference. I totally think they should, because their bug has lead her astray. She is also an Airbnb host in her home country. So, according to the S-1, we are both valued stakeholders.

The support guy last night who escalated it to the specialist said they can do things to help her, such as find her another place. Knowing that, I am hanging on a bit longer to see if they come through...

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Post by H8crilA »

azylman wrote: post #441
H8crilA wrote: post #431

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Yeah but as an investor why would you buy this stock, and at which price level if so? My point of view is that of an investor - how would I know if they're compounding up or down. Is it a zero? Is it great? All you're saying is "trust the management". I am not saying they're doing a bad job, I am merely saying that it looks difficult to tell. Remember, the management has a huge incentive to sell you the stock regardl…

I'm not saying "trust the management", I'm telling you how an investor would think about it. High spend on marketing can absolutely be justified. Additionally, there's rarely enough public info to allow any investor to independently verify whether it's justified in a specific scenario or not. But if an investor thought that there was positive ROI on that spend, they're not going to fret too much about how large that…

Sorry for ad hominem, but it simply seems that you haven't thought about how to value (determine the price of) securities.

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Post by garmaine »

chrisseaton wrote: post #371
garmaine wrote: post #357

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that’s something different. Every country asks where you will be staying on their immigration entry forms. This thread is about local police, no immigration and customs agencies. In Germany, it is required that when you move to a new apartment you walk into the nearest police station or town hall within a few days and fill out a form telling them your new address, who you live with, what their religious affiliations…

> This is not “write your hotel’s address on the immigration form”, it is “tell the local cops where to find you.” There is a huge difference in my mind at least. I'm sure it all goes into the same database.

Not on the USA. Maybe the feds have access to all these databases, but I guarantee the local police don’t. Things are very distributed here.

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Post by xncl »

virgilp wrote: post #344
elamje wrote: post #136

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A fun anecdote about AirBnB in China: 2 years ago I travelled to Beijing and Shanghai and intended to stay in an AirBnB. AirBnB had tons and tons of listings in both places, all of which had specific instructions to tell the neighbors you were “a friend” and not staying there with AirBnB. At the time, and possibly still so, AirBnB was not operating legally in those particular places, and I presume most of the country…

> it’s such a good booking platform Is it? I always hated it. I'd be very curious to learn what makes it feel like a good booking platform. It doesn't even show you where the room is located! (only approximate location). Seems way worse than e.g. booking.com, the only reason really to use them might be lower prices... if they still have an advantage here, which I'm genuinely not sure anymore (a while ago I decided I…

Yes I made the switch back to "normal" hotels last year and everything was so much easier we arrived much earlier than expected and they had a better room available at that time so they gave us that one. Then took our bags while they cleaned the room went to the hotel's cafe for a coffee. Easy peasy.

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Post by TimTheTinker »

bosie wrote: post #358
CURLY3Y wrote: post #314

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Anecdotal experiences incoming: I am moderately involved with various sinology students from Europe. And have traveled to China personally. Personally I stayed at various AirBnBs within China and registered at the police in Bejing and Shanghai. The host provided a signed letter confirming where we are staying. With that letter I headed to a local police station where I gave the letter and had to fill out a form with…

> had to sign a letter confirming the visit and infraction. sorry, what infraction?

Looking up a political dissident. That's apparently illegal in China.

(It is a communist nation where disagreeing with the government is tantamount to treason and is treated as such.)

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Post by Marciplan »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #187
Marciplan wrote: post #130

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Hi! Random q, but where could I read more on this specific topic? :)

For public securities, margin or a pledged asset line. If it's private equity (structured lending), you'll need to speak with a banker who can structure a deal specifically for you based on an illiquid PE holding.

Thank you :)

Re: Airbnb S-1

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Post by johnfn »

lotophage wrote: post #107
johnfn wrote: post #78

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Did I say it was? It is the host's fault for charging me damages outside of my control. It is also Airbnb's fault for refusing to take a side.

You bled all over the host's towel, was that in their control? They have to replace that once it's been soiled with blood.

This is one of those examples where someone's point of view is so foreign to me that I start wondering if they live on another planet.

You seem to insinuate that because it wasn't within the host's control that I bled on their towel that it somehow falls on me instead. What? Did I choose to bleed, then? I mean, obviously it seems to me that it should fall on Airbnb itself to pay in cases like these. Perhaps the owner of the house should have demanded funds from Airbnb in exceptional cases like these. The outrage here is that the owner of the Airbnb - and you, apparently - seem to think that it's somehow a burden that I myself have to bear, as if I chose to get punched in the face.

Oh and by the way I did pay a standard multi-hundred-dollar cleaning fee. Apparently that wasn't enough, though.

If I got in a car crash in an Uber, because another car backed into me, do you think they would have fined me if my head hit the headrest in front of me and I got a bloody nose? To suggest as much would be outrageous. In fact, I have gotten into a car crash in Uber, and even Uber, one of the scummiest companies out there, knew to do the right thing. They immediately comped the ride and gave me another one for free. (OK, one could argue they could do even more...)

If I went to a hotel that was located in a shady area and walked outside and got punched in the face and bled on the floor when I came back in, do you think their first reaction would have been to charge me to clean it up?

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