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To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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post #7

It's not really about 'writing skills', it's 'communication skills'. 'Writing' usually implies the ability to be creatively articulate, for example, like writing a long form news article. People can be great writers and poor communicators. For coherent team communications you even don't need proper grammar - what you need the ability to be clear, succinct, appropriate, provide context, timely etc.. It's not about 'wr…

I hate long form writing with a passion. I barely got my decree because I hated writing that trite crap they call a thesis so much.

On the other hand I consider myself a good communicator, I can type a succinct email with a clear structure, I can create a damn fine Wiki page with indexes and all and I also communicate pretty well over text-based chats (started with IRC in the 90's).

Still, I couldn't write a 10 page report to save my life (still have one due for a course, been putting it off for 6 months now...)

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

#162
Also: hire people with strong reading skills. No matter how good your writing or your automation (requiring less writing), sometimes the business processes need long explanations. You don't want people asking around without reading the basics first. Overcommunicate, yes. But also, read what others actually wrote.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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I don't agree with everything DHH does or says, but the Basecamp Guide to Internal Communication is amazing: https://basecamp.com/guides/how-we-communicate

This is especially important now that people are working remotely and can't just quickly chat about things.

A few quotes:

#2 Real-time sometimes, asynchronous most of the time.

#3 Internal communication based on long-form writing, rather than a verbal tradition of meetings, speaking, and chatting, leads to a welcomed reduction in meetings, video conferences, calls, or other real-time opportunities to interrupt and be interrupted.

#16 "Now" is often the wrong time to say what just popped into your head. It's better to let it filter it through the sieve of time. What's left is the part worth saying.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

#164

Agree, but this does skew in favor of people who's first language is English, which shouldn't really be an indicator of engineering quality.

> this does skew in favor of people who's first language is English

You mean the people who don't know the difference between your and you're ?

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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post #63

I've been working on remote teams for almost 20 years. The key to success is overcommunicating. In other words--don't assume people have full context or share assumptions. Write emails that lay out assumptions explicitly and detail problems completely. As a manager I sometimes feel like a Habsburg bureaucrat buried in the Chancery offices sending painstaking messages to a far flung empire. Come to think of it, remote…

As a manager, you can probably get away with this. As an IC, people rarely read my emails if it doesn't fit in their screen (so 3 paragraphs is the max). The only thing I've found that works is to send details, and then probe the recipient on each important item in there to make sure they understood what I wrote. If I'm too detailed, they will get lost. If I'm very concise (but still complete ), they'll misinterpret.…

It’s a bit like sending events to an unknown state machine.

You need add enough context for the event to be processed but you can’t know what will happen when it is...

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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post #63

I've been working on remote teams for almost 20 years. The key to success is overcommunicating. In other words--don't assume people have full context or share assumptions. Write emails that lay out assumptions explicitly and detail problems completely. As a manager I sometimes feel like a Habsburg bureaucrat buried in the Chancery offices sending painstaking messages to a far flung empire. Come to think of it, remote…

As a manager, you can probably get away with this. As an IC, people rarely read my emails if it doesn't fit in their screen (so 3 paragraphs is the max). The only thing I've found that works is to send details, and then probe the recipient on each important item in there to make sure they understood what I wrote. If I'm too detailed, they will get lost. If I'm very concise (but still complete ), they'll misinterpret.…

The One Palm Rule. I know a few people that promote this :) If it's larger then your palm, when you streach a hand towards screen, you are not obliged to read it.

Suprisingly effective, especially if you are open about it. Of course it applies only for those with 1000 unread (after filters).

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

#167
I find that it isn't just the act of communication or writing that's important -- it's the person's ability to step outside their own bubble of code, jargon, details, and synthesize (whether up or down) to give someone else the essence of what they need to know about an issue or problem in that communication or writing. To be able to offer some decision, plan some work, take some conclusion from what has been done so far.

I encounter too many developers who simply start talking about the detailed issue at hand as if I've been working on it sitting aside them for the last week. Well, if that were the case, I would not need to talk to you about it.

When talking to someone not directly involved in your work, the point is that some level of abstraction is needed, and probably some decision is the reason for talking. People need synthesis and summary of the issues at hand, and not recitation at the details level.

This takes extra work and preparation, or at least mental organization -- to summarize for someone else what they need to take away from your details. It takes active effort to think about what your work or result or roadblock means for others, present options on what they should do, and you can tell easily when someone has thought through that next step, rather than just regurgitating what they've been working on all week.

That is a highly valuable skill and you know it when you encounter it.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

#168

I've been working on remote teams for almost 20 years. The key to success is overcommunicating. In other words--don't assume people have full context or share assumptions. Write emails that lay out assumptions explicitly and detail problems completely. As a manager I sometimes feel like a Habsburg bureaucrat buried in the Chancery offices sending painstaking messages to a far flung empire. Come to think of it, remote…

I managed a team for 25 years at a Japanese corporation. We had team members in many different timezones, and scheduling videoconferences was always a fraught process.

I write a lot. In fact “prolix” is not a bad word to use for my writing.

The biggest complaints I received were always about the lengths of my missives.

This was a legitimate complaint. It took a long time for people to translate my messages, and to translate the responses.

I learned to write emails with every sentence as a separate line, a clear abstract, and a clear conclusion/question.

Bullets were important, as was careful wording. Fifty-cent words were OK, as long as they were accurate and relevant, but jargon was harmful.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

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I've been working on remote teams for almost 20 years. The key to success is overcommunicating. In other words--don't assume people have full context or share assumptions. Write emails that lay out assumptions explicitly and detail problems completely. As a manager I sometimes feel like a Habsburg bureaucrat buried in the Chancery offices sending painstaking messages to a far flung empire. Come to think of it, remote…

A good maxim from safety critical industry: patronised is better than dead.

Re: To find great remote employees, prioritize candidates with strong writing skills

#170
I recommend hiring at least one person who actually knows how to get the job done.

I also recommend making sure you don't interrupt them with senseless meetings, spam them with a doom scrolling e-mail stream, or force them to be in useless chat rooms that keep interrupting their train of thought.

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