If you are a dev be careful with these new macs. Docker won't start: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25073010
Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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But compared to x86-64 Macs it's not that much slower, because the x86-64 Macs are using old slower Intel CPUs. Depends on the app but some of them run faster in Rosetta than they do on comparable PC hardware. Everyone keeps comparing a SoC designed for low-end (in the Apple lineup/ecosystem) to the Ryzen. As the AnandTech review noted, the M1 bests even the Ryzen on some benchmarks and Ryzen beats it in others. The…
> The point everyone conveniently seems to miss is a new SoC for mobile devices running at 10-20 watts shouldn't be in the same universe when it comes to performance with any Ryzen desktop processor—but here we are. 10-20 watts is how much desktop processors use for a single thread, so they're not claiming an unfair advantage there. It would be truly impressive if the M1 at that power level was competitive with deskt…
You seem to be ignoring the benchmarks where the M1 beats the Ryzen 9 5950X on several--but not all--benchmarks. [1]
From the article: In SPECint2006, we’re now seeing the M1 close the gap to AMD’s Zen3, beating it in several workloads now, which increasing the gap to Intel’s new Tiger Lake design as well as their top-performing desktop CPU, which the M1 now beats in the majority of workloads.
And there's this: The situation doesn’t change too much with the newer SPECint2017 suite. Apple’s Firestorm core here remains extremely impressive, at worst matching up Intel’s new Tiger Lake CPU in single-threaded performance, and at best, keeping up and sometimes beating AMD’s new Zen3 CPU in the new Ryzen 5000 chips.
And regarding power consumption: While AMD’s Zen3 still holds the leads in several workloads, we need to remind ourselves that this comes at a great cost in power consumption in the +49W range while the Apple M1 here is using 7-8W total device active power.
That's the point I previously made—Apple’s first go at making their own processors for their entry level laptops and the Mac mini is super competitive with AMD's newest and best processors and beats it in several benchmarks, at a fraction of the cost and power consumption.
That's pretty impressive.
It has to make one wonder what the results will be when Apple ships a processor made for higher-end desktops, where they won't have the thermal and power restrictions of a laptop processor?
I'm sure when they were contemplating a transition away from Intel, they had to do their due diligence and consider if AMD could be an option. But clearly they knew they have a much higher ceiling with their architecture.
You know there are prototypes in Apple's lab now that far surpass Ryzen that'll be in machines spring/summer 2021. Apple's been relentless with shipping faster A series chips every year for the iPhone; I suspect we'll see the same thing with the M series.
[1]: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-teste...
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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safari and ublock feel better
There was something with UBlock or Adblock Plus in the past and if it wasn't UBO I wasn't sure if they were trust worthy. I think one went rogue and one started selling the ability to unblock ads. But, with Safari 14 being able to transform chrome extensions, I hope that some of the popular ones and EFF ones can migrate. I ended up migrating to Better as it uses Apple's API for this(I think it's a list of things to b…
uBlock (without Origin in the name) is property of the same owners as AdBlock Plus, and both extensions whitelist ads under their owners' "Acceptable Ads" program, with many of the advertisers paying for that special access.
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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Would you mind posting that here?
https://www.docker.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-chips-and-docke... Here are the money paragraphs: St Paer-Gotch says that Apple's changes mean the company needs to move its "plumbing" to Apple's new hypervisor framework. And it also relies on software from other companies which are similarly still working to adapt to Apple Silicon. "We rely on things like Go for the backend of Docker Desktop and Electron for the Docker…
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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As a diehard Firefox user, it has never been competitive with safari when it comes to performance. JavaScriptCore and WebKit are kind of ridiculously fast. If only they were put in a browser that was at all usable.
Firefox doesn't stutter on infinite scroll sites like Twitter. Safari noticeably does, even in Big Sur. So I am torn between the two.
Here's a link to a tweet showing Safari with 400 tabs on a M1 MacBook Air… the performance is incredible.
Turns out Chrome choked and became unresponsive when trying to do the same thing: https://twitter.com/panzer/status/1328790134548905985?s=20
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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Firefox doesn't stutter on infinite scroll sites like Twitter. Safari noticeably does, even in Big Sur. So I am torn between the two.
safari cannot preview ph videos like chrome/edge, that's a huge lost for me
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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Why does Chrome need Bluetooth? Gross...
For Google Cast most likely. Local discovery of Cast recipients. Casting to your TV etc is a popular feature
Also: Using Bluetooth for discovery of your units suck. I live in an area with lots of houses close by each other, and I see at least 3 Apple TV's in my iPhone's AirPlay menu which are not on my network, and there's no way for me to get rid of them.
Apple, Google and friends: Stop. Trying. So. Hard! We're all on the same network. It's OK. No need to look further.
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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For Google Cast most likely. Local discovery of Cast recipients. Casting to your TV etc is a popular feature
But that's most likely on your local network. No need to use Bluetooth for this, when you have simple local UDP multicast. Also: Using Bluetooth for discovery of your units suck. I live in an area with lots of houses close by each other, and I see at least 3 Apple TV's in my iPhone's AirPlay menu which are not on my network, and there's no way for me to get rid of them. Apple, Google and friends: Stop. Trying. So. Ha…
Write a script to stream Rick Astley's most popular clip to them in a loop, wait for the owners to turn off P2P Airplay.
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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But that's most likely on your local network. No need to use Bluetooth for this, when you have simple local UDP multicast. Also: Using Bluetooth for discovery of your units suck. I live in an area with lots of houses close by each other, and I see at least 3 Apple TV's in my iPhone's AirPlay menu which are not on my network, and there's no way for me to get rid of them. Apple, Google and friends: Stop. Trying. So. Ha…
> I see at least 3 Apple TV's in my iPhone's AirPlay menu which are not on my network, and there's no way for me to get rid of them Write a script to stream Rick Astley's most popular clip to them in a loop, wait for the owners to turn off P2P Airplay.
It's the P2P AirPlay design which needs a justification, not me wanting to get it disabled.
Re: Firefox beta supports Apple silicon natively
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As a diehard Firefox user, it has never been competitive with safari when it comes to performance. JavaScriptCore and WebKit are kind of ridiculously fast. If only they were put in a browser that was at all usable.
Firefox doesn't stutter on infinite scroll sites like Twitter. Safari noticeably does, even in Big Sur. So I am torn between the two.