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Yeah we fought a big war over it 160 years ago. 600,000 people died.
The Makeup of the CCP Elite
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Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite
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How is it a good thing to have more efficient dictators?
China isn't ignoring climate change, understands geopolitics, learns from it's mistakes, etc. The US is falling behind in all of those areas.
China isn't ignoring climate change in their rhetoric. What they are actually doing is building record amounts of coal power plants, right now, this year.
https://www.wired.com/story/china-is-still-building-an-insan...
The US' greenhouse emissions peaked years ago and have been in steady decline. China is the #1 emitter, #1 coal consumer, and building record amounts of new coal domestically. And not just in China, but all over the developing world through their Belt and Road program.
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China isn't ignoring climate change, understands geopolitics, learns from it's mistakes, etc. The US is falling behind in all of those areas.
China isn't ignoring climate change in their rhetoric . What they are actually doing is building record amounts of coal power plants, right now, this year. https://www.wired.com/story/china-is-still-building-an-insan... The US' greenhouse emissions peaked years ago and have been in steady decline. China is the #1 emitter, #1 coal consumer, and building record amounts of new coal domestically. And not just in China, b…
This is true, however these plants are being used quite rarely and are instead base load.
Chinese emissions per capita and per dollar are falling, and total emissions seem to have plateaued, so I'm not sure that really qualifies as ignoring it.
Same in the developing world, while some kinds of fossil fuels for baseload generation is necessary so long as nuclear is taboo, they are on track to never even get close to the level of emissions per capita of the US, and indeed plateau in total emissions soon.
Of course, you can make the argument that this isn't enough. That being said, for places stricken by poverty, it's certainly a hell of a lot more effort than the US that doesn't even deign join the Paris Climate Agreements.
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How is it a good thing to have more efficient dictators?
The best system of government is a benevolent dictatorship. If you can’t make it less dictatorial, at least make it more benevolent.
The problem is a benevolent dictator only lasts part of one lifetime. Then you have to deal with the problem of succession, which in a dictatorship likely means unpredictable chaos
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It's not that Indians were magically disappearing on earth... I don't think your statement is baseless. But you are being emotional and completely dodges the OP's intention: I.e. US leadership have not been as competent in most major domestic areas as Chinese counterpart. BTW: US leadership probably caused more civilian death international than Chinese government's domestic figure. Probably 2-3 orders of magnitude mo…
> BTW: US leadership probably caused more civilian death international than Chinese government's domestic figure. Probably 2-3 orders of magnitude more. Iraq Syria etc. Going off the conservative estimates, the CCP-led Great Leap Forward killed over 10 million people. 2-3 orders of magnitude more than that is 1-10 billion.
I implied to be recent history. Mostly within 20 years.
Let's extend to 2 regimes history:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indige....
Wow, US and China are among the most evil government in human history!
What a surprise...
Give me a break, my lad. I am not talking about how morally superior CCP is to US government. Look at the havoc raged by the US leadership. I am fking weeping every night regretting the stupid 12 years I spend at this damn declining country.
Cannot we stop the bittering and focus on improving and positive thinking...
I never defend CCP in any degree beyond showing the lack of leadership from US. Read my comments, judge for yourself.
I don't think a US born person can understand the profound disappointment I am experiencing everyday now. I am comparing US to CCP, that's not what I setup to learn 12 years ago coming to this country...
Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite
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It's not that Indians were magically disappearing on earth... I don't think your statement is baseless. But you are being emotional and completely dodges the OP's intention: I.e. US leadership have not been as competent in most major domestic areas as Chinese counterpart. BTW: US leadership probably caused more civilian death international than Chinese government's domestic figure. Probably 2-3 orders of magnitude mo…
> BTW: US leadership probably caused more civilian death international than Chinese government's domestic figure. Probably 2-3 orders of magnitude more. Iraq Syria etc. Going off the conservative estimates, the CCP-led Great Leap Forward killed over 10 million people. 2-3 orders of magnitude more than that is 1-10 billion.
If you want to go back you can count all the natives and slaves killed by the US, going off the conservative estimates the US killed over 100 million people.
HOWEVER. The US back then is not the US right now. And the CCP back then is not the CCP right now, so both arguments are quite foolish.
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The best system of government is a benevolent dictatorship. If you can’t make it less dictatorial, at least make it more benevolent.
The problem is a benevolent dictator only lasts part of one lifetime. Then you have to deal with the problem of succession, which in a dictatorship likely means unpredictable chaos
In plato's republic the benevolent dictators choose their successors to also be benevolent dictators, do not know if that could work in real life but the CCP do chose their successors, and not based on blood lines
Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite
#40The CCP is terrible but there’s no question intellectually they outclass the United States’ geriatric leadership. Much more STEM too. We love our lawyers and business folk, don’t we?
Where's the mention of more STEM? (I was hoping it might have some details, but can't see it)