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South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by munificent »

jdhn wrote: post #104
Diederich wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I remember correctly, deaths today are linked with the hospitalizations 12 days prior. From what I've seen, South Dakota is nearly out of ICU beds, as are many other states. These Covid19 death rates are going to get really, really bad this time around.

>From what I've seen, South Dakota is nearly out of ICU beds Do you have a source for this?

According to the South Dakota Department of Health site, they 36.2% of the ICU beds are currently available [1]. According to this article [2], that count includes NICU (infant) beds, which will not be very helpful for COVID-19, which mostly seriously infects adults.

[1]: https://doh.sd.gov/news/Coronavirus.aspx

[2]: https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-sioux-falls-voting...

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by uoaei »

orangecat wrote: post #85
skyzyx wrote: post #26

Yes, the pandemic fatigue is real. Yes, it would be wonderful to hang out with my friends in person, or to drive 100 miles crossing the border to go visit my children. But the reason this is lasting so long, and things are shutting back down is because people are ignoring the truth. You can talk about the economy all day long, but the fact of the matter is that if we all would’ve taken this seriously and shut everyth…

the fact of the matter is that if we all would’ve taken this seriously and shut everything down, we would be through the worst of it already This isn't supported by the available evidence. Spain was forbidding people from leaving their homes except for essentials, and now they're worse off than the US in terms of hospitalizations and deaths. Many other countries also had stronger lockdowns that have not spared them f…

Lo, the flaws inherent in taking assertions way too literally.

Spain has a different economy than other countries. There's depends unusually heavily on tourism compared to other countries in the Western world.

What do you think happened in the last year that would prevent tourists from coming to Spain?

Seriously, HN, we are better than this inanity.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by mike_h »

orangecat wrote: post #85
skyzyx wrote: post #26

Yes, the pandemic fatigue is real. Yes, it would be wonderful to hang out with my friends in person, or to drive 100 miles crossing the border to go visit my children. But the reason this is lasting so long, and things are shutting back down is because people are ignoring the truth. You can talk about the economy all day long, but the fact of the matter is that if we all would’ve taken this seriously and shut everyth…

the fact of the matter is that if we all would’ve taken this seriously and shut everything down, we would be through the worst of it already This isn't supported by the available evidence. Spain was forbidding people from leaving their homes except for essentials, and now they're worse off than the US in terms of hospitalizations and deaths. Many other countries also had stronger lockdowns that have not spared them f…

It's not an unsolvable human nature problem. Look at just about any country in East Asia.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by [deleted] »

analyte123 wrote: post #96

Obviously, it isn't right to be rude to nurses but it probably also isn't right to sneer at people on their deathbed who don't want to accept that they're dying or really understand why, and blame them for their disease even though we have no idea how they got it. I think some people dying in hospitals from COVID have a right to be mad at the medical system. Did these patients get any of the 5+ antiviral or immunomod…

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Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by davek01 »

tedmcory77 wrote: post #21
whalesalad wrote: post #12

My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

A few weeks ago we drove from Hendersonville, NC (by Asheville) down through South Carolina and Georgia. We were the only folks in gas stations wearing masks, and received a few chuckles when people saw us wearing them. Your comment of feeling like an outsider alien really resonates.

That's funny because I'm from SC and Hendersonville was the first place I felt that was too lax in social distancing this summer. In 2 different restaurants (Pop's Diner and Flat Rock Wood Room) parties were sat at tables adjacent to ours. I actually had to check to see if NC had any sort of restrictions in place. Anecdotally, I would say that mask adoption in SC where I live is ~65-70% but even in places where I was in the minority for wearing a mask I've never seen a smirk or a chuckle and definitely haven't felt alienated.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by uoaei »

jeffbezos982134 wrote: post #60
pengaru wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I drove to Sioux Falls a few weeks ago, just to be some place normal. It was nice just being able to go into a brew pub or an indoor restaurant, and talk to people. Too bad it was only for a few days. Frivolous travel for the express purpose of not social distancing during the throes of a pandemic... smh, what a prick.

I agree with him. I wear a KN-95 mask everywhere I go. I don’t mind it at all. I’d really prefer to live somewhere that lets you go to a bar or eat inside a restaurant. I’d love to go to the barber shop and have my beard shaped up. Maybe I’ll go to Sioux Falls :)

Coronavirus enters the body through the eyes as well as mouth and nose. If it gets on your hands, you can put it on your face. Only 1000 virons are needed to establish an infection.

If you're wearing KN95 mask with a beard on, your mask isn't working properly anyway and you could be unwittingly spreading the virus, further delaying a reopening.

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Post by 01100011 »

remote_phone wrote: post #124
01100011 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 50% of the population has IQ below 100 Lots of people have IQs of 100. If you have a moment, I'd like to understand why you think half of the population has an IQ below 100, and why that might be significant. Does an IQ of 98 or 99 deem a person a moron? I agree that the US has an issue with how education is viewed in the popular culture. I would bet, without any acutal supporting data, that compliance with mask or…

By definition, the median IQ is 100.

Ok, so does anyone have an IQ of 100? If some people have an IQ of 100, is it possible for 50% of people to be below 100 and 50% to be above 100?

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by hackeraccount »

This is all just one step away from those people who post conversations they supposedly had with their 4 year children that mysteriously support all their political prior beliefs.

"And then my little Johnny said to me, 'Mommy, wouldn't it be more fair if instead of treating capital gains as normal income we indexed it to inflation?'"

"I just don't know Johnny but some people either aren't able or will not just see the world as it is."

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by tuckerpo »

jdminhbg wrote: post #66
remote_phone wrote: post #31

Basically the US’s complete disregard for public education is now coming to a head. I remember one study that said the US students were one of the lowest in terms of education but the absolute highest in terms of self confidence. We are reaping what we have sowed for decades now. We have such a vast uneducated population that this coronavirus is almost more like a horrifying culling of the uneducated than anything el…

> I hate to be so blunt, but 50% of the population has IQ below 100. Nothing to me has demonstrated this more than the reaction to the pandemic. When you are so uneducated that you think a mask won’t help prevent a disease that is spread via respiratory droplets, that is a big problem and unfortunately those people are all sitting ducks. Of course many won’t believe the doctors when they don’t have the capacity to un…

Do you believe people should need their government to do their thinking for them?
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