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Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Re: Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Post by mmargerum »

judge2020 wrote: post #5

> We found one strange Rosetta bug in this test: we set Premiere to export at a 40mb/s bitrate, but in Rosetta across three M1 Macs, it would deliver… 20. When we set it to 80mb/s, it delivered 40. Sure. We told Adobe, and the company gently reminded us that running Creative Cloud apps in Rosetta 2 is unsupported. So... be careful out there. Rosetta 2 might be a bumpy ride, but nice to see that Creative Cloud tools e…

I saw something yesterday where Rosetta 2 ran apps faster than real Intel chips on the M1. Crazy

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Post by supermatt »

oatmeal_croc wrote: post #7

Is any web developer planning to get the new Apple Silicon Macs? How's docker support (for ARM and x86 images)? Do the major IDEs work on Rosetta? What's support looking like for languages like GO, Rust now/in the near future?

No docker support at present - will be just ARM images when it is ready.

Re: Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Post by kabes »

oatmeal_croc wrote: post #7

Is any web developer planning to get the new Apple Silicon Macs? How's docker support (for ARM and x86 images)? Do the major IDEs work on Rosetta? What's support looking like for languages like GO, Rust now/in the near future?

Docker is a wip: https://www.docker.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-chips-and-docke... .

Re: Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Post by jamil7 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #3

I'm still cautiously skeptical about the new M1 chips. While for typical users running chrome, facetime, mail, etc it should be fine, I'm still wondering how it will fare under other workloads. I know apple mentioned that it will be able to export video much faster than intel chips, I'm still wondering what performance will look like for various tech stacks.

XCode initial and incremental build times are faster than a 16" MBP on all the M1 macs.

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Post by mschuster91 »

jamil7 wrote: post #9
danpalmer wrote: post #4

It's worth noting that while there are still quite a few caveats to the M1 MacBook Pro when looking at "pro workflows", this is only intended to replace the "low end" MacBook Pro which was already quite restricted. Given all the missing parts could require a fair bit more development (eGPU support is not something iPhones have needed so far after all), I expect we'll see these on the next generation of CPUs, along wi…

I don't think we'll see a Mac Pro for a long time, this will be the most difficult (and interesting) one to see move over to ARM.

Why? ARM server CPUs are already a thing for years now.

Re: Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Post by qz2 »

jamil7 wrote: post #9
danpalmer wrote: post #4

It's worth noting that while there are still quite a few caveats to the M1 MacBook Pro when looking at "pro workflows", this is only intended to replace the "low end" MacBook Pro which was already quite restricted. Given all the missing parts could require a fair bit more development (eGPU support is not something iPhones have needed so far after all), I expect we'll see these on the next generation of CPUs, along wi…

I don't think we'll see a Mac Pro for a long time, this will be the most difficult (and interesting) one to see move over to ARM.

I predict it will disappear from the market within 2 years with no replacement leaving people to limp along on an iMac. Not like it hasn't happened before.

Re: Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Post by drivebycomment »

_fat_santa wrote: post #3

I'm still cautiously skeptical about the new M1 chips. While for typical users running chrome, facetime, mail, etc it should be fine, I'm still wondering how it will fare under other workloads. I know apple mentioned that it will be able to export video much faster than intel chips, I'm still wondering what performance will look like for various tech stacks.

Based on the analysis of https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-teste... , M1 is absolutely competitive with the best laptop class CPUs in raw performance, while being dramatically lower in power consumption. This is definitely one of the best out-of-order processor pipelines ever created.

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Post by zepto »

jamil7 wrote: post #14
_fat_santa wrote: post #3

I'm still cautiously skeptical about the new M1 chips. While for typical users running chrome, facetime, mail, etc it should be fine, I'm still wondering how it will fare under other workloads. I know apple mentioned that it will be able to export video much faster than intel chips, I'm still wondering what performance will look like for various tech stacks.

XCode initial and incremental build times are faster than a 16" MBP on all the M1 macs.

Very interesting. Do you have a reference for that?

Re: Apple MacBook Pro with M1 Review

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Post by dawnerd »

oatmeal_croc wrote: post #7

Is any web developer planning to get the new Apple Silicon Macs? How's docker support (for ARM and x86 images)? Do the major IDEs work on Rosetta? What's support looking like for languages like GO, Rust now/in the near future?

vscode is getting an arm build by end of month apparently. I use vscode's remote development feature so the m1 macs are actually perfect for me.
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