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2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#41
I'm not surprised it's doing well.

Apple has deeper pockets than anyone else on the planet, and they have considerable experience doing this kind of thing –literally, decades.

Say what you will about Apple; this is a strong point for them.

But I'm still waiting for the M2 before I upgrade. I'm also interested in new form factors. Right now, they are still relying on the currently-tooled production line for their shells. They now have the ability to drastically change their forms.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#42
> The MacBook Air and MacBook Pro get chips with all 8 GPU cores enabled. Meanwhile for the Mac Mini, it depends on the SKU: the entry-level model gets a 7 core configuration, while the higher-tier model gets 8 cores.

This appears to be wrong. From what I can see on apple.com, the Air offers the choice of a 7 or 8 core GPU, while the Pro and mini start with the full chip.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#44
It makes me very annoyed they aren't selling a minimal laptop version. I really don't get why they're doubling down on forcing the touch strip onto their laptops when nobody is demanding this and, thankfully, no competitor wants to acknowledge such a feature or the software burden requiring that hardware implies.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#45

Interesting that it is not able to outperform the Zen3 CPUs. I had expected it to do somewhat better, especially it being a 5nm processor, and with all the hype around ARM processors. I don't know how well it will hold up to its x86 competitors like this, especially once they launch their 5nm CPUs next year.

In multi-threaded mode - which is what Zen3 are optimized for - the M1 barely reaches 30% of the Zen's performance.

I mean that's kind of expected if you compare a low-power CPU with fewer cores against an unlimited-cooling desktop monster with much more cores.

The M1 will likely be an amazing laptop chip, but still unusable for demanding desktop work, e.g. CGI.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#46

Wow it must suck to be Intel right now. It wasn't so long ago that the trope was while others had better multi-core performance "...Intel still holds the lead for single core performance" Now not only do AMD have a better product, but also Apple now offer equal or better performance than the best that Intel can offer. I wonder what is next for Intel now their £1000+ CPUs are firmly in third place. Looking forward to…

Not long ago at all, like just a few weeks ago right before zen3 was out in the wild! A double whammy for sure for Intel, tough times ahead indeed. Apologists can hand wave AMD off by citing the huge lead in sales that Intel still enjoys, but that argument falls flat with Apple, a trillion dollar company. Maybe Intel will start to compete on price like AMD used to.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#48

Interesting that it is not able to outperform the Zen3 CPUs. I had expected it to do somewhat better, especially it being a 5nm processor, and with all the hype around ARM processors. I don't know how well it will hold up to its x86 competitors like this, especially once they launch their 5nm CPUs next year.

Interesting that your takeaway from all this is "oh, it can't beat some of the top x86 chips in existence—it can only meet them on even footing. Guess it'll be falling behind next year."

This is Apple's first non-mobile chip ever. You think this is the best they can do, ever?

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#49
post #16

Another source: https://wccftech.com/intel-and-amd-x86-mobility-cpus-destroy... At least in multicore, all of the Ryzen CPUs beat the M1.

Those are only Cinebench benchmarks.

Have a look at SPEC2006 and 2017 benchmarks, M1 beating desktop class Ryzen 9 5950x, or just trailing behind (edit: in single threaded performance), keeping in mind cost of each and that:

> While AMD’s Zen3 still holds the leads in several workloads, we need to remind ourselves that this comes at a great cost in power consumption in the +49W range while the Apple M1 here is using 7-8W total device active power.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

#50
This is really impressive for (what I perceive to be) an entry-level computer. I always enjoy reading the technical rigor of AnandTech's deep dives, and seeing Apple's first chip go head to head with Intel and AMD's chips indicates the future is bright. I can't wait to see how the 16 inch MacBook Pro, the iMac replacement, and the Mac Pro replacement test out.
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