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??? My memory is fuzzy now, but I’m 99% sure the same rule applies in the USA
Nope.
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As an American who now lives in Germany, it does make me think how the U.S works at all without this "registration". There are times where you fill out government forms with your address, but there's no way to know for sure where someone is living at any given moment. As far as the "government" is concerned (which government? state, local, federal? AFAIK it's all pretty decentralised) I'm still living at the place I…
Heck, I remember it getting drilled into me in middle school that the Nazis were able to kill so many Jewish people because they had complete records of where everyone lived and their religious affiliation. When the time came, they knew what doors to knock on. It boggles my mind that this system still exists in modern Germany, of all places. The American model is highly distributed and need-to-know. Many government f…
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Not for a holiday though, only when you're planning on living here - which does makes sense.
I couldn't find an official source in English, so I'm just going off what I found here: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-western... For tourists, it's something that's rarely enforced. And if you stay at a hotel they'll handle it for you (or presumably, maintain records in case the police have questions).
Here's an official source, in Dutch - Google Translate will get the general point across: https://www.politie.nl/themas/kort-verblijf-vreemdelingen-20...
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Not for a holiday though, only when you're planning on living here - which does makes sense.
I couldn't find an official source in English, so I'm just going off what I found here: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-western... For tourists, it's something that's rarely enforced. And if you stay at a hotel they'll handle it for you (or presumably, maintain records in case the police have questions).
Machine translated, then lightly edited by me:
> Short stay in the Netherlands
> In anticipation of the amendment of the Vreemdelingenbesluit (Foreigners' Order), you no longer need to report to the vreemdelingenpolitie (foreigners' police) as a foreign national coming to the Netherlands for a maximum period of 90 days. There is one exception to this new rule. The Dutch representation abroad or the Koninklijke Marechaussee (Royal Military Police) may, in special cases, require you to report to the vreemdelingenpolitie in person within three days.
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No, only if you're planning on living in the Netherlands for 3 months or more.
As an American it is so weird that a country would require you to register with the police at all, no matter your length of stay.
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I had that exact experience in the famously non-corrupt Netherlands (2017). It’s not a China thing.
Does the Netherlands have a rule that you register with the local public security bureau for wherever you are staying? I really don't see AirBnB working in China because of that.
This reasoning given is 'security', that is, the city should know in case of an emergency ( say, a nuclear attack ) who to rescue. Ahum.
Of course, there is the nightly tourist taxes, that might have something to do with it too.
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Nope.
The US does do this. I’m always asked where I’m staying when I cross into the US. I have to write it on my landing card and they ask me about it at the border. And this is someone who doesn’t need a visa, even.
In Germany, it is required that when you move to a new apartment you walk into the nearest police station or town hall within a few days and fill out a form telling them your new address, who you live with, what their religious affiliations are, etc. You will get in trouble with the police if you do not do this.
In China they take it even further, and even tourist have to do the same. If you stay in an Airbnb in China and do not register with the local police, it is possible you can get in real trouble. This is not “write your hotel’s address on the immigration form”, it is “tell the local cops where to find you.” There is a huge difference in my mind at least.
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Chinese police are not known for a lax attitude to rule breaking when it comes to foreigners
Anecdotal experiences incoming: I am moderately involved with various sinology students from Europe. And have traveled to China personally. Personally I stayed at various AirBnBs within China and registered at the police in Bejing and Shanghai. The host provided a signed letter confirming where we are staying. With that letter I headed to a local police station where I gave the letter and had to fill out a form with…
sorry, what infraction?
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The US does do this. I’m always asked where I’m staying when I cross into the US. I have to write it on my landing card and they ask me about it at the border. And this is someone who doesn’t need a visa, even.
that’s something different. Every country asks where you will be staying on their immigration entry forms. This thread is about local police, no immigration and customs agencies. In Germany, it is required that when you move to a new apartment you walk into the nearest police station or town hall within a few days and fill out a form telling them your new address, who you live with, what their religious affiliations…