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Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by monkin »

omnimus wrote: post #70
monkin wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 for Migadu or ProtonMail, both offer great service, but Migadu with $19 yearly plan and amount of features is just incomparable to any other service.

Worth noting i suspect they had some issues and maybe the company was sold? It was quite young company. I had it for few years but there was very litle activity, no bug fixes, updates, messages. It was a bit worrysome. Now they have changed branding and pricing so hopefuly its moving again.

I remember they had some issues at the beginning of a year when international lockdown struck. That huge surge of remote workers made problems for many companies.

But I’m using them for few years and never been happier. :)

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by tluyben2 »

Fnoord wrote: post #77
tluyben2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not planning to retire. I tried retirement after I sold my company and I really did not like it. I might step out of computing, however that does not exclude running this. Also I have good friends who are helping. I would say we can revisit this topic here in at least 15-20 years and it'll still run (and probably will need a new skin ;) ).

> I am not planning to retire. With all due respect, you probably should plan around this. What if you suddenly die tomorrow? I'm not trying to threaten or scare you, its just that you (and your customers) should plan around this. An example of such planning which likely fits the glove for all readers here, is to have your private key or password at a notary.

> I'm not trying to threaten or scare you

It's ok, I did do this; like said above, the source (and all keys/access) are in escrow at a notary for the projects I run in case of bus-hitting. Also, I am not working alone, but yes, I will rethink this again as it was a while ago that this was arranged.

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by mfsch »

karamanolev wrote: post #62
systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

I do agree that Swiss laws are generally good, but consumer protection is significantly worse than for example the EU. For many things, a EU person will take something for granted and get screwed over, mostly in terms of strange socially accepted norms + "if it's in the AGB (terms of service) good luck arguing/defending".

> "if it's in the AGB (terms of service) good luck arguing/defending"

It might be hard to argue without suing, but legally there are provisions that if the AGB contain “surprising” terms, you have to be made specifically aware of them or they are invalid. There is currently a high-stakes case building because of this: Some of the epidemics insurances for restaurants had a provision that “pandemics” are excluded and won’t pay out for COVID-19, now restaurants are suing.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/epidemie-versicherer-kein-ge...

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by Darmody »

Darmody wrote: post #15

I see they offer My kSuite for 50€/year but there's no way to see what they offer for that price without creating an account.

Am I being down voted because I can't find the specs of the paid version they are offering?

HN, please...

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by monkin »

Fnoord wrote: post #90
monkin wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 for Migadu or ProtonMail, both offer great service, but Migadu with $19 yearly plan and amount of features is just incomparable to any other service.

ProtonMail (and ProtonVPN, ...) is unrealistically expensive. Posteo [1] runs on green energy, and does support TOTP (in constrast to Migadu). 12 EUR/year. [1] https://posteo.de

Unrealistic? The same pricing like many other commercial products in this area, and even cheaper than Google.

EDIT: Posteo doesn’t have custom domains, total deal breaker for me.

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by nix23 »

mfsch wrote: post #93
karamanolev wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do agree that Swiss laws are generally good, but consumer protection is significantly worse than for example the EU. For many things, a EU person will take something for granted and get screwed over, mostly in terms of strange socially accepted norms + "if it's in the AGB (terms of service) good luck arguing/defending".

> "if it's in the AGB (terms of service) good luck arguing/defending" It might be hard to argue without suing, but legally there are provisions that if the AGB contain “surprising” terms, you have to be made specifically aware of them or they are invalid. There is currently a high-stakes case building because of this: Some of the epidemics insurances for restaurants had a provision that “pandemics” are excluded and w…

The whole Swiss government is insurer friendly/best buddy, since last year the insurer can change the contract on his side without you to have to accept it...it's disgusting.

Also the lobby is really big...even bigger then the financial lobby:

https://www.nau.ch/politik/bundeshaus/so-viel-geld-pumpen-sc...

And that is the real interesting graphic:

https://c.nau.ch/i/RNNxO/1360/spenden.jpg

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by keraf »

systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

Swiss here.

> That said, I think Swiss laws are great and immune to a lot of bullshit.

In 2016, people voted in favour (65.5%) for giving mass surveillance power to our intelligence service [0]. And we also did it before it was cool (and legal), so trust us, we are good at that [1].

[0] https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classified-compilation/20120872/... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_files_scandal

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by steveharman »

chewzerita wrote: post #71
systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

I pay the $\approx$ 1 USD a month for Posteo, but after reading about Migadu, I might decide to switch over. Their pro/con page[1] is extremely refreshing. I know this doesn't really matter, but the whole design of their site is very attractive to me following the brutalist/minimalist style (see also miniflux[2] or lobsters[3]). [1] https://www.migadu.com/procon/ [2] https://miniflux.app/ [3] https://lobste.rs/ EDIT:…

I hadn't heard of Migadu until today but am now moving my domains from Google (thanks!). An interesting point to note about their pricing plans and policies in general - is that they're "flexible".

Foe example there's a 200 email per day "limit" on the cheapest plan, but each plan comes with a 25% tolerance.

Similarly the storage "quota" on each tier.

I just asked Migadu's support about whether there was a 10GB option available, as 5GB was too small for mea and 30GB too high / costly. "Sure," he replied in under 4 minutes - "there's actually no fixed storage limit on each plan, please see https://www.migadu.com/pricing/#how-do-storage-limits-work" And sure enough - 5GB, 10GB, 15GB... all would be possible on the "5GB tier".

If you get close to or exceed the 30GB quota of the next tier up, their systems contact you and suggest upgradng which sounds pretty reasonable.

I'm just going to check if Apple or Google are quite so accomodating...

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