Git is too hard • Hacker News Board

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by passerby1 » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:20 AM UTC

Complaining is not the best strategy for marketing anything. If one cannot use it, why bothering onesepf with more complex problems comes up in software engineering?

A free market theory says anyone can prosper if one does what can do great. Do something else. Learn git. Or drive trucks. Do not complain.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by knocte » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:20 AM UTC

dimgl wrote: post #6

I don't agree at all. Git is the simplest version control system I've ever used. The concept of merging, rebasing, cherry-picking, and resetting works so naturally that I'm basically going to expect this level of ease of use from any VCS I use going forward. That being said, I know there are some who have trouble with Git. But IMO it isn't because Git is hard, but because they don't have to truly understand Git to us…

I slightly disagree. I think git is simple, but the UX (the way the commands and flags are designed) is really bad so that's why it's perceived as hard.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by funtkungus » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:20 AM UTC

remirk wrote: post #4

Git is one of those technologies where it's super important to get a good grasp of how to internals work. Once you got that, it get easier to answer git questions for others or yourself, and to read the documentation or man pages, as you know what is happening. With how software devs use git, it's 100% worth it to read a good book on it.

I would also love to get some recommendation on git. I'm using the github desktop gui atm (very new to this world), but I'd like to start learning git. it is kinda intimidating.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by andybak » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:20 AM UTC

> Click here to listen along while you read. It's better!

No. It really isn't.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by boriselec » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:20 AM UTC

Mayzie wrote: post #18

remirk wrote: post #4

Git is one of those technologies where it's super important to get a good grasp of how to internals work. Once you got that, it get easier to answer git questions for others or yourself, and to read the documentation or man pages, as you know what is happening. With how software devs use git, it's 100% worth it to read a good book on it.

What book(s) would you recommend?

https://jwiegley.github.io/git-from-the-bottom-up/

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by vincentmarle » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:20 AM UTC

Sounds like we need a new, higher-level interface on top of git.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by monkin » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:21 AM UTC

All of those questions in this blog post comes from people who don’t even look into documentation or try to find answers (e.g. learning), and someone is even hiring them.

It’s a sad state of a world we live in. :)

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by passerby1 » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:21 AM UTC

kissgyorgy wrote: post #13

Not Git is which is hard. Distributed systems are hard! So there is a really hard problem to begin with. One specific example from the post to delete a branch. There is no way to simplify that if you want to make a truly distributed system.

Complaining instead of learning that's what hard. Hard for those who pays attention to it too much.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by tasubotadas » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:21 AM UTC

dimgl wrote: post #6

I don't agree at all. Git is the simplest version control system I've ever used. The concept of merging, rebasing, cherry-picking, and resetting works so naturally that I'm basically going to expect this level of ease of use from any VCS I use going forward. That being said, I know there are some who have trouble with Git. But IMO it isn't because Git is hard, but because they don't have to truly understand Git to us…

Then you have never used Mercurial.

Re: Git is too hard

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Post by drilldrive » Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 9:21 AM UTC

As a user who knows absolutely zero Git, I often fumble around for a good 20 minutes at times trying to figure out how to just install someone's project for consumer use.