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Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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> some of you are just so far removed from actually understanding your own feelings and emotions that you can't even recognize that you're depressed For example, I am quite aware that I have some feeling X. I am just not sure whether other people use the word "depression" to refer to X, or something else. Maybe "depression" actually refers to 10 times X, how am I supposed to know? Sometimes people use the same words…

I've been wondering about that me too I wonder what could be good ways to "calibrate" one's words against each other So thereafter two people who say "depression" mean the same thing and X strength

A similar problem is when one person says "I am unable to do X" and another person says "I find it extremely difficult to do X, but with lot of suffering I somehow manage to do it anyway", you never know whether the second person had more willpower or better strategy or maybe more supportive environment, or simply their symptoms were less strong.

No matter how you decide to see it, it ends up blaming someone. If you decide the problem was the same, then you can blame the first person for not trying hard enough: "see, the second person had the same problem, but they didn't give up, they thought positively, tried harder and overcame the problem, why can't you do the same?" But if you decide that the problem was not the same, then you can blame the second person: "see, you were able to do it after all, which shows that you were only pretending to have the problem, unlike the people who actually suffer from it and cannot do anything about it!"

Of course in real life many problems are on a scale; for different people doing X may be "easy", "difficult but possible", or "impossible". But many people want to round this to "yes" or "no". -- "Either you have depression or you don't. Either it is possible to do X when you are depressed, or it is not. If it is possible, then people who claim they are too depressed to do X are just lying. If it is not possible, then people who manage to do X with great effort were lying about being depressed." -- It works similarly for topics other than depression, too.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#222

I voted, but I'm not really sure if I'm the audience you sought for this poll; I've been severely depressed for the majority of my life (it gets more and less worse from time to time, but always what I'd consider depressed), but the coronavirus situation hasn't (as far as I've noticed) affected it all that much. I wish good luck to all of you out there who might be going through this for the first time in your life,…

I found my depression has actually lifted with respect to the pandemic. It has helped me realize there is only so much in a situation I can control, ergo me, that I can always change my situation. And that if I can't, if I am physically restrained or something, then perhaps only my thoughts.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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I drink decaf. ^_^ There is decaf out there as good as the best non-decaf coffee (I drink espresso, yum!) and it's a pretty short amount of time before the brain normalizes to decaf and it will wake you up without the negative side effects. But yah, caffeine while anxious can be not a good time.

Any recommendations on brands for good decaf? I've never tasted decaf coffee that wasn't awful.

If you're in the US: https://www.gocupper.com/ (No affiliation.)

I drink espresso so I'm biased towards certain beans. What you drink, how you drink, and ofc what your tastes are will drastically change what you like. I can tell you, if you don't use a burr grinder it can be hard to tell the difference between most high end beans, even for filter coffee, so there is more to it than just getting the world's best beans.

As far as high end beans go there are three primary categories:

- nutty

- chocolatey

- fruity

Often times nutty beans will be called chocolatey, because chocolate is considered a higher grade, but there is a difference. If you want to play with it, a fun goal is to find the best beans for your setup from each category. Chocolatey beans can be fun to explore with sweet 'n condensed milk sometimes as well, just for the fun of it. Nutty beans you usually can't taste unless you're using an espresso machine. It's typically subtle. Fruity is the kind of beans you'll typically find in a high end café in an urban area and can be quite good when brewing pour over. However, they can be high in acid, but a high end fruity bean will have low acid. Those are rare and tend to be reserved for espresso.

Years ago before Blue Bottle got bought arguably their best tasting beans was their decaf. I think they wanted to show to the world decaf can taste good. I guess it wasn't making money, because the first thing that changed when they got bought was the decaf switched to something not very good tasting. Since then I've been slowly going through decaf espresso beans all over the world trying to find something as good. I've found good beans, but nothing as good.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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> it takes 4-5 seconds for the other part of the mind to come in and override the action, so as long as ... before that Meaning, for the stone age feelings parts of the brain, to realize that "but I want to stay in bed"? If one acts faster than that part of the brain, then it's harder for it to mess things up? (Like, feeling sad, worrying, doing nothing)

Basically.

Ok I'll try this :-)

Work is fun though and getting up in the morning too, but ... Well there are a bunch of other things I've postponed for months now soon

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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It's almost as if people's emotional states come from things other than making entirely rational big picture judgements about the state of the "average person" on the whole planet. I'm curious if you have, at some point in your life, met another human being? All evidence would point to "yes", and yet here you are, all over this thread, debunking other peoples' subjective mental states with your superior facts and log…

It is almost as though you can’t tell the difference between statements about population aggregates and statements about individuals.

You offer up statements about population aggregates as a supposed explanation for the self-reported mental states of a collection of individuals, so you don't really get to reasonably complain about this.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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It is almost as though you can’t tell the difference between statements about population aggregates and statements about individuals.

You offer up statements about population aggregates as a supposed explanation for the self-reported mental states of a collection of individuals, so you don't really get to reasonably complain about this.

Where have I offered any explanation for anything?

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#227

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I've been wondering about that me too I wonder what could be good ways to "calibrate" one's words against each other So thereafter two people who say "depression" mean the same thing and X strength

A similar problem is when one person says "I am unable to do X" and another person says "I find it extremely difficult to do X, but with lot of suffering I somehow manage to do it anyway", you never know whether the second person had more willpower or better strategy or maybe more supportive environment, or simply their symptoms were less strong. No matter how you decide to see it, it ends up blaming someone. If you…

What about this way of looking at the it's-possible scenario:

That means there's a way for the cannot-do person to actually do it, s/he just needs to figure out how, maybe with help from others

Good news?

And there's no need to blame him/her -- not any more than someone who got a cold which can happen to everyone

I wonder what caused you to thinking in terms of blame and lying

(The other scenario -- when the can-do person in fact did sth else and says it's simple -- can be annoying indeed)

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