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Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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use your imagination. Sheesh this is such a boring line of questioning that borders on disingenuous and obtuse for a social news site that caters to people in AdTech.

You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot, by using HN for political and ideological battle, flaming other users, and so on. We've had to warn you about this many times: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23452134 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21480233 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21480058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20717150 Would you please fix this? The intended use of…

That's interesting that you seem to think it's my problem. I also find it disingenuous that you are linking to my previous comments publically. Are you trying to shame me? Maybe you need to disallow political discussions period? Have you considered that the people I am replying to are also fighting a political battle that you are biased for?

All in all, yes I believe certain things passionately. Like racism and sexist exist in America, specifically in software and corporate America. I also believe that this bias shows on this community because of the demographic or people who browse and comment here.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Nows the time to purchase that Dell r720xd and install TrueNAS on it. The software is mature and the hardware is up for a steal pre-owned. https://twitter.com/RussellBal/status/1323778579273043968

I can tell you from personal experience that r720xd are VERY LOUD and use a huge amount of power 200-300W! If that isn't a problem then go for it, they last forever in my experience.

You must have had a issue with your hardware or firmware because my r720xd is quiet. Only loud during post boot test.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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30 GBP per year for measly 200GB, I can have 1TB for 40 GBP (and I am talking about more expensive external drive) and I am not scaling it like Google so no, that's not reasonable at all to pay 4-5 times more for online access to something you can have in safety of your home and actually own and if you keep using the drive for 2-3 years the comparison makes it even much worse deal for Google, after 3 years you are on…

Apples to Oranges. Google replicate and have roughly ~ 3 copies of your data, your 1TB hard drive does no such thing, has zero redundancy, isn't available from your phone, can't automatically backup photos from it, etc.

except only reason many if not most of the people keep using google photos is free unlimited photo backup, let's see how many people keep using it when they run out of those 15GB

you can have redundancy with two drives for price which will pay itself within less than two years and you will have significatntly bigger backup capacity for connecting external harddrive directly to your phone through USB OTG and pressing one button, I find that extremely convenient, after all automatic google backup was pretty fucked up and freezing and unstable for years

what is the most important is you have your data backed up and it does not matter whether you have to connect drive and press one button or it us supposedly done automatically

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot, by using HN for political and ideological battle, flaming other users, and so on. We've had to warn you about this many times: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23452134 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21480233 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21480058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20717150 Would you please fix this? The intended use of…

That's interesting that you seem to think it's my problem. I also find it disingenuous that you are linking to my previous comments publically. Are you trying to shame me? Maybe you need to disallow political discussions period? Have you considered that the people I am replying to are also fighting a political battle that you are biased for? All in all, yes I believe certain things passionately. Like racism and sexis…

I'm not trying to shame you; sorry if it had that effect. I post links like that when I imagine it might be helpful to users who are trying to decide (as users always try to decide) if the moderator is being excessive or not.

Banning political discussions is not possible for a bunch of reasons, but the most important one is that it would be bad for curiosity, which is the thing we try to optimize HN for (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). There are too many intellectually interesting topics with political overlap—and ultimately, some political overlap on virtually every topic.

At the same time, not moderating political discussions is also not an option because that would also be bad for curiosity. So we're in a bit of a tradeoff with constraints on either side and no easy solution. I've written about this a lot in the past: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so.... If you or anyone reads those explanations and still has a question that I haven't answered yet, I'd like to know what it is.

As for bias, everyone always feels that the mods are biased against their position when we moderate this way (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...). I'd never claim we're unbiased—who could?—but the bar for reaching that conclusion needs to be a little higher. I can show you a long, long list of HN commenters complaining bitterly that HN is biased in favor of your positions (i.e. the politics/ideology you happen to favor). Every passionate user feels that the bias runs against their side.

I'd be cautious about assuming things about the "demographic or people who browse and comment here". We don't have that data—no one does—and HN is basically a gigantic projection screen or Rohrschach diagram out of which people draw their own pre-existing positions. (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...) I know this because everyone does this, and the universal property their statements have in common is not their conclusions about HN (those are wildly contradictory) but the fact that they always see HN—both mods and community—as opposed to their own view. (One explanation for this is https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...)

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Have used it but this sounds a lot like kicking the can down the road. Don’t be surprised if/when Amazon does the same thing and/or just lets photos Languish. I encourage a self-hosted solution with backups. There are many, some super easy for non-tech folk to use (synology for example)

I am indeed self-hosting, but just a Raspberry Pi+HD. The Google/Amazon Photos is the backup/convenience. Since I want off-site backups in case something happens in my apartment, when/if Amazon goes this road I'll probably rent some general purpose storage in the cloud.

Check out backblaze. Crazy cheap for backups (0.005/GB/month or so IIRC) and you can easily encrypt before doing so to maintain privacy.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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what I want to know: why would storage prices increase when storage costs continue to plummet (and network ingress costs remain cheap due to asymmetric use vs serving) spitballing... - gphotos was free when google wanted the data for training algorithms. They now have the data they need and it's become a cost center. Given Android integration, that amount is substantial. - the paid plans are underperforming, and this…

Much like when you pay for a good meal, the majority of what you're paying for is labor. Hardware is cheap. IT departments are not.

Right. But storage costs are per-GB, so as disks get denser then all costs drop per GB.
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