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Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by dehrmann »

meekrohprocess wrote: post #2

Hehehe, Tulsa Oklahoma. I wonder how many of them visited before applying. I don't mean to knock the city, but it is a very different place, and SF residents might chafe at the lack of interesting nature in the surrounding area. Probably the closest large park-ish area would be the Ozarks over in Arkansas. It's a lovely forest, but still about a 2.5-hour drive away. And OK's state highways are absolutely littered wit…

I send these offers to a friend as a joke. The only one I was serious about was Helsinki.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by dvtrn »

ketamine__ wrote: post #33
nostrademons wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DC/AZ/OR seems like an odd choice for third-tier tech hubs. If I had to rank U.S. metro areas in terms of favorability for tech, I would do: Tier 1: Bay Area Tier 2: NYC, Seattle, Boston Tier 3: Research Triangle, Pittsburg, Chicago Tier 4: Austin, Boulder, Portland, LA/Santa Monica, Ann Arbor Tier 5: Everywhere else. There's some industry-specific tech support in various other cities (eg. oil in Houston, automotive…

How can Chicago be below Austin? Chicago has Groupon, 1871, and Lightbank. Austin's downtown doesn't even compare to Chicago's downtown. It's horrible.

Lived in one, now a resident in the other, Austin's downtown doesn't even compare to the downtown of the other major cities in its own state, if you even only talked about public transit. Going east to west is a nightmare of transfers, going north to south (in non-COVID times) is a nightmare of sitting on either Guadalupe for an hour to go two miles or sitting on Lamar for an hour to go two miles. And that's IF your CapMetro bus is running on time that day.

You'll do marginally better driving your own car if you catch that section of Guadalupe going south right at the perfect time when the lights slowly cascade to green as you approach Riverside.

(Course the tradeoff here in Chicago is looping the block endlessly looking for a parking spot, but in non pandemic times, I'd trade the CTA for CapMetro in a heartbeat)

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by burnthrow »

leetcrew wrote: post #90
Retric wrote: post #76

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It’s really odd to me that California is perceived to be such a problem while the area is so economically productive. It’s a very odd type of cognitive dissonance where something is both a model to be copied and a mess at the same time by the same people. People try and recreate Silicon Valley while arguing non competes must be enforced. As if the ideas must inherently be unrelated.

> It’s really odd to me that California is perceived to be such a problem while the area is so economically productive. It’s a very odd type of cognitive dissonance where something is both a model to be copied and a mess at the same time by the same people. it's only odd if you think economic productivity is the sole determination of what makes a desirable place to live. regarding SF in particular, it's phenomenal wh…

> the rate of petty crime rivals that of the most dangerous cities in america

Correction: SF has nation-leading levels of property crime, a leaderboard dominated by west coast cities. The US cities with highest violent crime rates have comparably low property crime. Which makes sense: Property crime is riskier in those places.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by burnthrow »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #67
mjfl wrote: post #61

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if you're getting paid a tech salary to live in Tulsa + $10k who the FUCK cares if a clerk is rude to you? They probably make $2k per month and live in a $500 / month apartment and can't afford to leave, can't afford to fly anywhere. Financial success should give you some fortitude to withstand really minor insults like that.

> if you're getting paid a tech salary to live in Tulsa + $10k who the FUCK cares if a clerk is rude to you? I think of my New York City taxes as a country club fee. That way they aren’t half bad. If I made a little less or a lot more they would be a problem. But having distance from racists, homophobes and idiots, who tend to congregate in low-cost places for being, generally, useless, is worth a few tens of thousan…

You'll find lots of racists, homophobes, and idiots at actual country clubs. Not sure what you're trying to argue here, class can't be purchased.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by thedufer »

paxys wrote: post #43

I understand people who have roots in the bay area and aren't in the position to leave (or just don't want to). I also understand people who, under the current circumstances, want to temporarily or permanently move to a location that will work out better for them. I don't understand, though, how $10K can be the deciding factor for someone for such a major decision.

I think it's less "convince Californians to leave" and more "convince Californians who want to leave to go to Tulsa specifically". For someone who has no ties to a particular place but just generally wants to go somewhere in the middle of the country, it seems much more plausible that their offer could make a difference.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by burnthrow »

xur17 wrote: post #119
vmception wrote: post #63

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Think about all the people behind on their rent and/or need to break their lease (an additional month rent) to move otherwise they risk a court ordered eviction, a debt judgement, and being on the “do not rent” list for all landlords everywhere forever no matter if the monthly rent is 1/10th the amount that caused the problem during a global pandemic. A $10k cash infusion solves all or a lot of that in most cases. Ma…

I'm honestly surprised more places are don't try this - $10k for the potential tax revenue seems well worth it to me.

Probably because it doesn't work. You're most likely to attract those with few compelling options anyway.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by dfee »

techsupporter wrote: post #17

I (truly) wish these people good luck and hope they find the happiness they seek. I am from near Tulsa and there's absolutely no way in hell you'll ever catch my family moving back to there. It's hot, humid, comes with tornadoes, you have to drive everywhere (and everywhere is set up on the assumption you will drive). Plus, I will never forget the clerk at the licensing office who, after the rules changed to require…

Funny, from Broken Arrow myself, but indeed, have no intention moving back for very similar reasons.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by smabie »

xivzgrev wrote: post #6

Sure. If I rented, my job was secure, and all of my friends are packing, of course I would take a free $10k to move somewhere else for a year. The pandemic is probably going to take at least that long to wind out. I can always just move back if SF picks up again.

Just move out of the country to panama or belize or whatever. You'll save more than 10k on taxes and cost of living and life will be more interesting.

Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by [deleted] »

blhack wrote: post #57
chokeartist wrote: post #37

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Based on what? Not disputing you, legitimately curious. I am considering moving to Phoenix. Thanks!

The semiconductor industry has an huge presence here. Here's a new (major) fab going in: https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2020/10/20/semicond... Intel also has fabs here. Semiconductor manufacturing is a major industry in Phoenix.

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Re: Bay Area applicants flood program that pays them $10k to move to Tulsa

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Post by geodel »

techsupporter wrote: post #99
redm wrote: post #78

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I think your painting with a pretty broad brush. Sitting aside your bad experience at the licensing office (and general negativity on the culture), someone moving from SF may have a higher quality of life, depending on what they value. For example, more space, lower cost of living, lower taxes, ability to travel more, save more, have a larger house, etc. You can trade tornado's for wild-fire's and earthquakes. I live…

> depending on what they value And therein lies the rub. We had the big house (that we had to clean more often and pay more to heat, cool, and maintain), the huge yard with lots of space (that we had to spend hours every weekend dealing with, along with the cost), the two cars (with their own costs and hassles), and so on. What we didn't have was the respect of our community, or at least the recognition that families…

Good for you. You seemed to move to place that sit right with your political positions.
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