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Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by slothtrop »

izacus wrote: post #80
tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

I wonder if making a shell on top of Android (for compatiblity with other devices) would make community larger and get more software contributions. Not sure how technically feasible it is though.

Maybe, though in the worst case there's Anbox emulation.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#102

Post by Causality1 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #77
Causality1 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all. The specced hardware charge controller has no thermal circuitry and only disables the battery at a 6 amp current draw.

I'm not a power electronics guy but can a charging circuit realistically be a fire hazard without an initial overcurrent? It seems like good redundancy to have thermal cut-off but theoretically a fire would have to be preceded by a massive overcurrent anyway, no?

A chip can only detect current that's running through it or a sensor. A breached or shorted cell has a massive overcurrent between two parts of the cell and hence can only be detected by heat

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#103

Post by slothtrop »

MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #87

I would happily pay an extra $100-$200 for them to get a better processor, wifi, and bluetooth in there if it were possible. All the performance of everything running just looks so slow. I really do want to support these things, but even opening up a text editor took seconds on videos I've seen.

Better optimization will help, Librem 5 has better hardware but has (to a lesser extent) similar issues far as I know.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#104

Post by fsflover »

MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #87

I would happily pay an extra $100-$200 for them to get a better processor, wifi, and bluetooth in there if it were possible. All the performance of everything running just looks so slow. I really do want to support these things, but even opening up a text editor took seconds on videos I've seen.

Unfortunately it's a bit more than $200 extra, but: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#107

Post by nyanpasu64 »

jraph wrote: post #25

I just received a Pinephone Manjaro Comunity edition. 10€ is given to the project edition. Had I known KDE was next, I would have waited a bit! I already use Plasma on my laptop, it is a great desktop environment. I replaced Manjaro by Mobian, it works way better for me. KDE Neon did not work too well, unfortunately (it could not turn off the phone screen, and it didn't work correctly with an external screen), but I…

I tried Neon briefly on my PinePhone. Plasma Mobile is QML-based, and is less polished/working than Plasma Desktop. Performance is no better than Mobian. I don't think you get draggable title bars on Plasma Mobile either.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#108

Post by tluyben2 »

fsflover wrote: post #100
tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

> For now, this is a device for people who like freedom of their device (well, at least as much as we can get with modern circuits) Librem 5 [0] goes further than that: it's OS is endorsed by the FSF as truly free. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5

I wanted to try a cheaper phone first to see how I would like it. Thanks for the heads up.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#109

Post by olah_1 »

ViViDboarder wrote: post #88
olah_1 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By your definition, a job is a “get rich quick scheme”.

No. That’s a get rich slow scheme.

The value does not moon over night but rather the value increases as the product improves and your skills become more valuable. The same as a job.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#110

Post by josteink »

Causality1 wrote: post #102
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a power electronics guy but can a charging circuit realistically be a fire hazard without an initial overcurrent? It seems like good redundancy to have thermal cut-off but theoretically a fire would have to be preceded by a massive overcurrent anyway, no?

A chip can only detect current that's running through it or a sensor. A breached or shorted cell has a massive overcurrent between two parts of the cell and hence can only be detected by heat

> A breached or shorted cell has a massive overcurrent between two parts of the cell and hence can only be detected by heat

But that's not an error which can be caused by badly written software (i.e. like a Linux kernel).

So there's theoreticly no increased risk with running different "home-brew" OS builds on this phone due to software-related aspects of those builds.

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