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Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by eckza » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

ognarb wrote: post #18

oriesdan wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, thanks for taking questions. What is the state of the phone call/sms/mms support in Plasma Mobile on Pinephone? Also : will the CE edition be some sort of Neon mobile, or will it be based on PostmarketOS or something?

Yes it works! SMS and MMS are supported via the application Spacebar. The application got a lot of improvement last months. https://www.plasma-mobile.org/2020/11/12/plasma-mobile-updat... Calls are also working fine. The only "exception" being one carrier in the USA does not seem to work with ofono (the underlying framework) yet, but that issue was also with the previous UBports edition.

This is great news.

Biggest question: Can I send SMS, on this phone, from another computer?

The biggest reason I ditched my iPhone for Android was the excellent implementation of in-browser messaging, to and from my phone, on any computer with a web browser.

I don't need to be able to text from "any computer with a web browser", but if I could send SMS from Win / Mac / Linux machines that I owned, that would be a huge incentive for me to give this platform a shot.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by simlan » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:04 PM UTC

simlan wrote: post #59

If i click through i can't order it though ? The web shop only has the manjaro version. Am I missing something?

Turns out my browsers mangle the landing page of the pine64 site. Pre-order opens December. Just Fyi for anyone else that wondered what avail immediately means.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by olah_1 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

strombofulous wrote: post #62

olah_1 wrote: post #47

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> then a lot more people will need to help with this. I don't know how that will happen I wonder if community crypto-currency tokens could be used for incentive. See explanation twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1326313315044192256?s=20 Really, community tokens could be the basis for a true guild system. The collective community of token holders would represent collective expertise in a specific…

This is a cool idea. It's like stock options for a startup

Pretty much, yeah. If the software is genuinely high quality and useful, or if it at least has potential, then expertise in it is valuable and worth paying for.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by 0rjf83 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

adamczi wrote: post #27

ognarb wrote: post #3

I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

Hi! What is the state of running regular Android apps on Plasma? I heard of Anbox, but does this actually work? I'm interested in running my bank's app on PinePhone.

I can't speak for Anbox support on Pinephone, but regarding your bank's Android app it probably uses Google Safetynet, which I don't think Anbox has support for, or will ever support. Without Safetynet the app will probably not function, or will function with limited features.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by olah_1 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

nwah1 wrote: post #78

olah_1 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> then a lot more people will need to help with this. I don't know how that will happen I wonder if community crypto-currency tokens could be used for incentive. See explanation twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1326313315044192256?s=20 Really, community tokens could be the basis for a true guild system. The collective community of token holders would represent collective expertise in a specific…

If they want to throw their reputations in the trash pushing get rich quick schemes, they probably would already be doing that instead of all this hard work.

By your definition, a job is a “get rich quick scheme”.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by 0rjf83 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

megous wrote: post #64

microtonal wrote: post #6

I don't have enough background, but I recently read that some distributions could be a fire hazard due to the lack of proper temperature regulation: https://xnux.eu/log/#017 https://xnux.eu/log/#018 If this was the case, is that still a concern and which distributions/systems address this problem?

It's probably not a fire hazard any more than other regular smartphones. Battery usually only gets somewhat warm when charged at "fast charging" current. My kernel has some patches that enable battery thermal regulation in the power management chip. Battery gets too warm/cold, charging stops.

Would you be willing to share these patches? I'm interested in this.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:20 PM UTC

I would happily pay an extra $100-$200 for them to get a better processor, wifi, and bluetooth in there if it were possible. All the performance of everything running just looks so slow. I really do want to support these things, but even opening up a text editor took seconds on videos I've seen.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by ViViDboarder » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:22 PM UTC

olah_1 wrote: post #85

nwah1 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they want to throw their reputations in the trash pushing get rich quick schemes, they probably would already be doing that instead of all this hard work.

By your definition, a job is a “get rich quick scheme”.

No. That’s a get rich slow scheme.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by _underfl0w_ » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:34 PM UTC

adamczi wrote: post #27

ognarb wrote: post #3

I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

Hi! What is the state of running regular Android apps on Plasma? I heard of Anbox, but does this actually work? I'm interested in running my bank's app on PinePhone.

To add to my sibling comment's remark about SafetyNet, you miiiight be able to make something happen with Magisk or some other form of SafetyNet spoofing but that's a very deep rabbit hole. Also potentially a legal gray area. The sort of configuration that no dev of anything involved would be willing to support! Still, all hope might not be lost. YMMV.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by qchris » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 5:34 PM UTC

ognarb wrote: post #18

oriesdan wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, thanks for taking questions. What is the state of the phone call/sms/mms support in Plasma Mobile on Pinephone? Also : will the CE edition be some sort of Neon mobile, or will it be based on PostmarketOS or something?

Yes it works! SMS and MMS are supported via the application Spacebar. The application got a lot of improvement last months. https://www.plasma-mobile.org/2020/11/12/plasma-mobile-updat... Calls are also working fine. The only "exception" being one carrier in the USA does not seem to work with ofono (the underlying framework) yet, but that issue was also with the previous UBports edition.

I hadn't heard about the new support for MMS, that's fantastic news! It's such an important part of group messaging in the U.S. that not having access to it was a huge blocker for me in terms progress towards daily driver status.