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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by smallnamespace »

dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

> Everyone is so negative, pessimistic, judgemental, sarcastic in tone, confrontational, and self righteous. People are posting so much shit it’s unbelievable how much time they waste of their lives there. One huge thread after another, people crying for attention.

> I was part of the problem too.

Not to be overly personal here, but doesn't this post veer close to describing itself?

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Post by chris_wot »

biztos wrote: post #259
dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I had a similar experience with Facebook: I was pretty good at not feeding trolls, but I'd get involved in these long discussions on political topics with apparently well-meaning people and inevitably, someone in the thread would start arguing from either bad faith or an "alternative facts" perspective -- and I'd end up angry and exhausted and having convinced nobody. Now I haven't used Facebook for six weeks (I stil…

I am beginning to wonder if social media may have had its heyday. Specifically I’m curious as to whether Facebook and Twitter will start to be used less and less by people, but who won’t abandon it completely.

I do wonder if this might make them less useful for advertisers.

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Post by simion314 »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #513
simion314 wrote: post #254

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>I think it’s down to who you follow. Isn't there the problem where your favorite "celebrity" you follow posts nice stuff but when election or some other event is happening they start posting a ton of "off-topic" stuff ?

The seems like one area where Google Circles could have been superior.

I don't think that could help, because you have a person with many followers and in their mind they think they are doing a good thing to spread "the message" so they would push their message to as many people as possible.

I was thinking you could have say a way to tag your posts or shares so your professional posts and personal posts could be separated but the "activist" would ignore the tags so they push their message to everyone. So as other suggested you would need a filter on client side to get around people that attempt to push some to everyone.

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

stickyricky wrote: post #510
calinet6 wrote: post #431

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I see it as the opposite: this may be how a technical network is supposed to work, but it's not how a society is supposed to work. The internet has created the ability for any given subculture to discover instant validation and reinforce their beliefs into a tribe, which further solidifies and extremifies those beliefs. It's a psychological power almost equivalent to a nuclear reaction: beliefs and ideas that might h…

> The internet has created the ability for any given subculture to discover instant validation and reinforce their beliefs into a tribe, which further solidifies and extremifies those beliefs. I don't believe this is true. I remember "Ye Olde Days" (TM) of the Internet. You went to an independent forum or mailing list that supported your interest (video games, music, politics) and then you argued with everyone in you…

The only community you have is your friends, and your friends usually have similar beliefs to you. So the space where you could have people with significantly different political views meet on the same terms is gone.

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Post by gpanders »

okareaman wrote: post #494

My Twitter is great. I follow AI, VR, Philosophy, Zen, Mindfulness, Twertzog, etc... all high quality. Same with Facebook. I'm very happy with my feed. I follow vintage photography, various art focused groups, philosophy groups, hacker and tech groups and I've unfollowed friends who post toxic shit. I enjoy looking at Twitter and Facebook in the morning. Twitter and Facebook AI's are constantly surprising me with coo…

They suck because this is not the default path or the path of least resistance. Without intentionality and vigilance, your Facebook/Twitter feed does inevitably turn into shit because that’s what their engagement algorithms push you toward.

I think it’s great that you’ve tailored your content so well. But you’re the exception rather than the rule.

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Post by 0x445442 »

matwood wrote: post #334
coldtea wrote: post #287

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Can we agree that there is a difference between an on screen nipple or saying fuck on TV and the POTUS actively undermining democracy? The general talk of free speech and censoring is not really useful here without specifics. Just like someone can't yell 'fire' in a crowded theater, there are other things we are finding that may be similar in nature. I think a more useful discussion could be around the specifics. Sho…

So you think Trump is the first POTUS to make objectively false statements and have those amplified over mass media?

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Post by laser »

dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

Learn to get the Twitter algorithm on your side! https://ibb.co/3BFQZhb

Look at how many negative words are in this post of yours and hopefully see the irony of what you’re saying. Twitter isn’t magic, it can only give you what it thinks you want from what you give it!

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Post by refurb »

XorNot wrote: post #403
refurb wrote: post #291

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Huh? I'm talking about the claims it's all "Russian disinformation" were not censored on Twitter . That's despite intelligence agencies saying that "there is no evidence it's Russian disinformation".

You mean the story with an implausible chain of evidence that somehow winds up at Rudy Giuliani. This Rudy Giuliani: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-bi... The one intelligence agencies are in fact definitely claiming is being targeted by Russian disinformation?

Your link doesn't even refer to the files. It's just a vague warning about "Russian disinformation".

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Post by greggman3 »

dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I am not a twitter user really. I check it maybe once every 2-3 weeks at most. But,.... It really depends on who you follow. I follow a few indie game dev friends and unfollow if one of them starts posting political stuff. My feed is mostly cool info about indie games in unity, unreal, pico-8, some graphics info. Very little bad stuff except for twitter itself with it inserting ads and trying to get me to follow "popular" people I have zero interest in or posting "trending" crap. Some of that I've managed to ublock origin away though of course it's extremely frustrating that both twitter and facebook obfuscate their css

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Post by hombre_fatal »

alkonaut wrote: post #302
simion314 wrote: post #254

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>I think it’s down to who you follow. Isn't there the problem where your favorite "celebrity" you follow posts nice stuff but when election or some other event is happening they start posting a ton of "off-topic" stuff ?

Absolutely. You follow humans. Whole humans. They have every right to attract followers with technical tweets and then suddenly anger half their followers by being political come election year. I don’t think it’s possible to create a safe space from opinions you disagree with. What happens on twitter could happen with your friend or uncle. On Twitter it’s at least easy to unfollow someone and it’s not a personal trag…

Very uncharitable response.

The above poster is right on. That your favorite poet or whoever can fly off the handle with their toxic political faction-war delusions or whatever is a direct contradiction to the common idea where Twitter is useful for following your favorite X.

It often sucks the fun out of things you like and it’s a good reason to not use it at all. Nobody is pitching “safe spaces” here. But it’s a good time to ask yourself how much a toxic one is going to enrich your life.

Getting off Twitter and Reddit are two great life upgrade tips.

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