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Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by christophilus »

dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I’m only a very light Twitter user, but I cull and curate my feed. It’s mostly funny, positive people in fintwit now, and it’s a good experience. I almost always learn something while flicking through.

But yes, I’ve found that without careful curation, it quickly turns into a depressing cesspit. Then again, that’s not unique to Twitter. I culled my contacts in the real world when in high-school and college for the same reasons and to the same effect.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by motohagiography »

This is how the internet is supposed to work. Encounters damage, routes around it. Censorship is damage, and people are routing around it.

As someone who never engaged with FB/Twitter from the beginning because I thought they were terrible ideas (all the rules, risks, and challenges of elite-level competition with none of the benefits), I was very glad to read this because this kind of divergence is precisely what creates growth. The platforms were becoming a ceiling on growth, and their policies have created the critical mass to start new ones. This will be a great time to be in tech.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by theodric »

dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

You need to get you some better Twitter follows, oof

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by d_e_solomon »

coldtea wrote: post #284
blackrock wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can’t the dissenting States just secede from the Union? It is a democracy after all.

It's not a democracy, it's a federal republic.

https://reason.com/volokh/2018/01/17/the-united-states-is-bo...

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Bedgeseb »

renewiltord wrote: post #70

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

That's a Strawman with some truth to it.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Rick1 »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #374
indigo945 wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because at this point, there is a sharp divide between conservatives who care about fiscal responsibility and family values, and "conservatives" who care about unmasking (((conspirators))) in pizza restaurants. Although to be fair, the platform will likely attract nothing but the latter.

Not sharp enough to say, vote for a better candidate

Given that both sides managed to provide senile old men I don't think anyone is in a position to point fingers.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by refurb »

LatteLazy wrote: post #408
refurb wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have an example of what was censored? Was it "I disagree with Trump's approach to foreign policy..." or was it thousands of spam messages?

They banned anyone parodying Conservatives and also anyone voicing support for antifa. https://www.cato.org/blog/twitter-alternative-they-can-keep-... They also banned fake accounts pretending to be well known people and accounts engaged in illegal activity (death threats etc). I'm fine with that personally, I don't expect them to operate a totally "free" speech service and somehow weather all the lawsuits that bring…

Huh. Well I guess that's the problem. It's hard to have a forum with productive conversations if you aren't willing to filter out "noise", but not everyone agrees with what the noise is.

But one could argue (and I'm not arguing that it's the case here), one could have different rules around what's allowed versus Twitter, and it could be a more open forum, but still censored (trolls, deaths threats, "fk you" posts).

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by SmokeyHamster »

motohagiography wrote: post #422

This is how the internet is supposed to work. Encounters damage, routes around it. Censorship is damage, and people are routing around it. As someone who never engaged with FB/Twitter from the beginning because I thought they were terrible ideas (all the rules, risks, and challenges of elite-level competition with none of the benefits), I was very glad to read this because this kind of divergence is precisely what cr…

I mostly agree. However, it'll be interesting to see how well new competitors can fair in an industry like social media where the product (i.e. us) is already near monopolized on a few large platforms.

Personally, I like Parler's interface, and don't mind that it's kind of a conservative bent, but I've heard from other conservatives that the interface isn't as good as Twitters. And it's smaller audience is already keeping some big-names away from it, even people who would theoretically really like the platform, like Ben Shapiro or Scott Adams. They've both created accounts there, but have both signaled that it's just too small of a platform and is a waste of their time to post there, so they stick with Twitter.

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Post by throwaway4good »

I think social media will split along political lines just like traditional media is split along political lines.

Parler already has some big names on its platform and I think the big fish, mr. Donald Trump, will leave Twitter shortly for this platform and bring with him millions of new users.

Big monopoly social media have succesfully prevented being split up by capturing regulators, ironic if this is how the monopolies finally are broken.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by refurb »

entropea wrote: post #312
refurb wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The NSA is secretly monitoring all communications on the internet" That would have easily been labeled misinformation and disinformation 10 years ago.

Iraq war criticism would've been labeled as conspiracy and had warnings below tweets and Youtube videos, despite us now knowing there were no WMD's.

Not sure why you're down voted. It's a good example. The whole "Saddam was buying yellowcake" was completely false, yet the only evidence was a gov't statement saying it was true.

If someone said "that's a lie", it would likely have been viewed as disinformation, but it would have been the truth.

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