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Intel's disruption is now complete

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Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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I found this very interesting, and it seems a similar thing is happening to Intel in the DIY/gaming space right now. For a long time, the Intel i5/i7/i9 were the processors of choice for gaming, but AMD's Ryzen line has been making remarkable inroads, with the recently released Ryzen 5000 series boasting performance that competes or tops Intel's top chips in the space, and generally with lower power draw to boot. I'm…

As another poster mentioned, AMD had a much better price / performance ratio in the mid 2000s too.

I worked for Intel then... The problem was AMD couldn't compete on volume. An individual could go buy an AMD chip at a great price, but AMD couldn't fill a large order from a PC manufacturer. Furthermore, we suspected their margins were too slim to keep investing in themselves.

Remember that DIY pc building is a niche. Something that makes perfect sense when you're building a single PC may not make sense when you're making thousands of laptops.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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That sounds very interesting. Has there been any update on how successful or not his ideas are in practice?

They're unsuccessful. His book on Psychopathy was panned on Reddit, as well as on Goodreads: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4c27ss/im_pieter_hint... Likewise, the wikipedia article for Social Architecture has been listed "not notable" for the past four years, and hasn't seen any meaningful edits since 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_architecture With respect to the author, I'm not surprised. Nerds…

> Likewise, the wikipedia article for Social Architecture has been listed "not notable" for the past four years, and hasn't seen any meaningful edits since 2016.

Pieter Hintjens died in 2016.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Similarly in US politics. And before we get emotional, how is it different from those examples?

A company and a sovereign state are completely different things. Both have politics since they are structures made of humans. But they are completely different. A company is a legal entity functioning within the framework of the legislation of a state, to start with.

A company and a sovereign state are completely different things.

It depends on the level you look at. For example the political skills of a manager to advance themselves at the expense of the organisation and their subordinates is identical whether at Raytheon or the DoD (to use an American example).

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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People root for anything-but-intel because competition is a good thing and intel had none for very long time. I don't know where the notion of "Intel is about to die and TMSC will make us suffer due to monopoly" comes from but before having people cheer for Intel again they probably need some time to have their execs cure some disease in some poor part of the world, do a few AMAs on reddit, open-source something, don…

Tech enthusiasm and criticism has become extremely cyclical in the past decade. It’s easy to forget that we were all cheering for Facebook and the Zuckerberg success story before it became uncool to be pro-Facebook. Intel is stumbling, but up until very recently they were still the fastest gaming CPUs available. That didn’t stop gamers from criticizing them endlessly and cheering their demise. Intel went from cool to…

> leverage the underdog position into a comeback story

The comback story will need Intel to become more productive with CPU manufacturing R&D. Is there any reason why after such prolonged decline Intel may have a comback?

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Many of us are? And we can replace parts from third parties. It is getting more and more integrated though which makes it hard to replace parts. But that has more to do with greed and size requirements than vertical integration, a soldering iron can amend some of that. Driver situation isn't by any means something new or necessarily an indication of vertical integration either.

Looking at my Asus sold with Linux "support" I doubt it, hence why I explicility stated 100%. As for the rest, nothing that regular consumers would ever bother with.

I don't have any issues, but I did do my research.

We are talking about vertical integration are we not? Don't see how any of that is relevant then.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Looking at my Asus sold with Linux "support" I doubt it, hence why I explicility stated 100%. As for the rest, nothing that regular consumers would ever bother with.

I don't have any issues, but I did do my research. We are talking about vertical integration are we not? Don't see how any of that is relevant then.

Which is exactly the proof of how Linux fails at that, by not proving it, thanks for confirming my assertion.

And since you did your research the wider public would appreciate to learn in what consumer shop one can get such out of the box experience.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Since the DMV exists primarily for traffic safety, I assume Apple is removing your ability to run whatever you want on your processor for your safety too?

LOL, I almost thought you were serious for a moment. The DMV is a revenue source for most states. Same with traffic cops. They both only have a tenuous link to traffic safety.

I was serious. I don't want to actually get into the usefulness of the DMV, I was just assuming a common opinion for the purposes of the discussion since the OP made the comparison to the DMV.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Similarly in US politics. And before we get emotional, how is it different from those examples?

All countries where there is a class of people who go into politics as their only career. The UK is riddled with them.

In some ways, this is the result of equality through having paid salaries for politicians. While the previous arrangement of having to be independently wealthy excluded most people from getting into politics, it did mean that it wasn't a career choice. It was something you did after you gained wealth and experience, at the end of a career in an actual industry and most likely running a business or being a senior manager, or you were wealthy to begin with. While the arrangement was not perfect by any means, it did mean that the politicians of that era were men of substance with a wealth of knowledge tempered by real-world experience. Politicians who go into it as a career straight from university lack any serious real-world experience outside politics, and I'm afraid to say they aren't up for the job. Their heads are full of political ideals but they mean little to the rest of us who just want competence and level-headed decision making.

I think there's a relatively straightforward and fair solution to the problem, and that is to require a certain amount of experience before being permitted to stand as a political candidate. You could do this by having a minimum age limit (e.g. 35), or by having been employed or being an employer for a certain number of years e.g. 15. This would ensure that the people representing us have gained a little understanding and experience of the world we live in and the real needs of the people they serve. Right now, I feel politicians of all stripes are almost completely divorced from the rest of us, and the consequences of their actions.

I do feel it is somewhat foolish that any job in the real world, from management through to the lowliest worker requires years of experience, multiple qualifications and certifications, training and assessment. But politicians require no independent assessment of their capabilities. The ballot box is not a high enough bar when all the candidates are of low quality.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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As I've linked to many times on HN: The Iron Law of Bureaucracy > Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people": > First, there will be those who are devoted to the goals of the organization. Examples are dedicated classroom teachers in an educational bureaucracy, many of the engineers and launch technicians and scientists at NASA, even some agricu…

That sounds like an ironclad law. But is there empirical evidence for it? And a rational explanation behind it? I mean it's very strict as a rule: "in EVERY case the second group ... ". Strong claims like that require strong evidence and a theory of WHY that would (always) be the outcome. I'm thinking of society as large. That is an organization too. Are we doomed by bureaucracy?

I don't have empirical evidence, but it mirrors the 2nd law of thermodynamics (entropy always increasing). Most "concentrated" things tend to dissipate away.

> Are we doomed by bureaucracy?

When empires collapse, you get small offshoots starting up somewhere nearby. If you search "tree life cycle" on google images you will see the analogy I'm trying to get at :)

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Apple bought fell for the whole "Post-PC" mirage when the iPhone & iPad were on a tear: the desktop Mac was definitely neglected for years with no advancements while manpower was directed at iOS & iOS devices. What they did come up with, was the form-over-function trashcan Mac "Pro" with severe thermal limitations. They only got it right on their next attempt (some 2+ years later), after being publicly called out for…

The largest issue with the trashcan MacPro6,1 was complete lack of GPU performance. They weren’t even VR capable.

The biggest problem is the form-over-function design. The same applies to the new one as well, though it's not as bad. In both cases, they are missing out on the business market who need a workhorse. Both are priced out of most people's budgets. We end up buying Mac Minis and struggling with their limited capabilities and expansion options. Their whole strategy here is poor. They don't have any midrange options between the two extremes.
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