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Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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Wow what happened to all the normal people? I am not depressed and never have been depressed. Life has never been easier or safer for most people and we have a poll result where 2/3rd of people are claiming to be clinically depressed?

Am put in mind of this quote:

"All of us have sufficient fortitude to bear the misfortunes of others". Francois de La Rochefoucauld

I see you're On Fire further down in the thread, helpfully whatabouting malaria or something to explain away our current crisis. I don't think most people wake up and immediately start praising their lucky stars that they aren't living during the Black Death or in some war-torn country in Africa. Life still isn't that easy or safe for a lot of people all around the world, and perhaps those of us who aren't psychopathic jackasses can find that depressing even if personally they're doing pretty well.

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I don't felt the need to see a doctor about what I'm experiencing, so I'm not sure if what I have qualifies as depression. But over the past several months, it feels like my entire personality and being is a rug that has been pulled out from underneath me. I'm no longer the driven and interested person that I used to be. I struggle to sit down and work - my brain feels scattered and no matter how much I sleep and res…

I find it so strange that when people have such clear indicators of depression, they’re still like “I’m not sure if this is legit depression but...”

I personally got to the point where I was practically fantasizing about dying and still wasn’t sure if that’s real depression. I think we ease into it and forget what being happy was like, such that the depression practically becomes normal. It’s awful

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I have major depressive disorder, but I take Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) type medication, so my mood is kind of stable even despite the pandemic.

If you feel depressed, but did not managed to go to a specialist yet, I suggest you try it out because it makes a huge difference.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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Wow what happened to all the normal people? I am not depressed and never have been depressed. Life has never been easier or safer for most people and we have a poll result where 2/3rd of people are claiming to be clinically depressed?

That is nice for you. I hope you never have to experience something so awful, which can effect someone without their control no matter how much their current circumstances might seem positive. On "easier & safer", I'm not sure the metric you'd use for safer. As for easier, millions of people have lost their jobs, millions more have their lives in upheaval as they are left to figure out difficult tradeoffs while watch…

I have certainly experienced many awful things in life, but I have not become depressed. Maybe I am just resilient, but I don’t think I am that unusual.

It is interesting that the response to my post has been to vote it down to oblivion. I posted hoping to see if the 2/3rd clinical depressed number is just a self selecting aberration, or HN really has become this bad.

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#126

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Millions of people die from diseases like malaria and HIV every year. Wallowing around in self pity because of COVID-19 is not going to change a thing. Life has been getting better every year I have been alive. Billions of people have been moved out of extreme poverty and the average person lives a easier and safer life than almost anyone in history - I would rather be a poor man today than a king of the past.

Ah I thought it was the Steven Pinker pattern. I don't see it as self-pity, or pity at all. The world is a dark place and our children are the bright lights of the future. It's the older generation that enjoyed the bright life and the millennial/z-gen is dealing with the world for what it is. This is the cold, severe reality of the day. I can't hand-wave away facts of my community for the tail end of the industrial r…

Any prior golden age you might care to look at was unevenly distributed. That was the case before the internet took hold in the 90's, during the rapid economic growth of the 50's, in the Renaissance, the heights of the Roman Empire...

Yes, that does not mean we shouldn't look back on the things in the past that were good & now are not. But if a wholesale reversion to a past time was possible, we would still find the golden parts of that earlier age to be apportioned to some, but not others.

Another consideration is that while I don't like life inside a panopticon, its absence in the 90's meant those of us fortunate to be "golden" simply had less awareness of those who weren't, hence the false impression that perhaps there was a lot more gold everywhere.

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Another perspective from somebody who used to answer yes for some years: thinking about your health too much is a thing. Try to live as healthy as you can: unprocessed food, drink mostly water, avoid stimulants, exercise, regular sleep, limit screen time, etc. But don't obsess over any of it. Thinking about it, analyzing every sleepless night, bad feeling and chest pain is not healthy at all. I've been there and know…

Your suggestions are not inherently unreasonable but most of them amount to ways that a out-of-sorts normal person can make themselves feel quite a bit better, and have very little to do with steps that might help someone with severe clinical depression.

That long list of things might help someone (especially given "drink mostly water" tends to suggest "don't drink very much alcohol") but it's unlikely to contain anything particularly first-order for a genuinely depressed person, and some of the "don't think too much about your health" suggestions seem actively mischievous.

I've known a couple teetotalling regular-schedule folks with great exercise habits etc. etc. who have carried out their praiseworthy and abstemious schedules right up to they moment they stepped off a building or bridge, in one case leaving behind a couple small kids.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#128

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Those are without a doubt some clear symptoms of depression. Two VERY VERY IMPORTANT THINGS: 1) A good first step is to see your GP, if you have one, and if you don't look up some reviews and find a decent one. If you're at the point where you lack the motivation to even do that, ask a friend or loved one to do it for you. If you don't have a resource like that around you, just click this link & put in your own zip c…

Just to geek out, a fun fact about why one often feels like depression will last forever is due to memory compartmentalization. To most anyone thoughts that pop up in our head come out of a black hole, an unknown. What's actually happening is we're seeing something in the present moment (thinking memories in the present moment too) and that thing we're seeing causes an emotional response, often an unconscious one. Th…

you're quite right about this. although i would say that we do actually store memories in our bodies. this is where extended abuse and trauma really take their toll on people. think about shell shock in veterans. they train and train for combat. then they see combat and the trauma then embeds itself in the 'muscle memory' of training. then something random happens but triggers the muscle memory and the memories come flooding back.

same for say, abused wives. say they get out of their situation and meet a nice person. then one day that person gets angry that the dog shat in their best shoes and they have a fit which reminds her of her previous relationship. the memories come flooding back.

depression is the same. for me it's been a recurring failure of academic and meritorious achievements. in our society not achieving these things is like a frying pan in the face when you want to do something that requires experience say. sure, I've learned to duck, but everytime life swings a frying pan at my face [being fired, not meeting qualifications, being considered unreliable/unintelligent etc] all those old memories come back. so you end up dodging one frying pan and get hit by another, as if there were some kind of compound interest frying pan abyss. my metaphor for the muscle memory of depression. eventually you just take the hits cause what's the use in trying to dodge the pan?

i will say this though; after being on disability for a decade there is something bitter sweet about the rising levels of depression brought on by covid. while i don't wish depression on anybody whatsoever, and hope one day we'll find some perfect somatic solution to it, misery really does love company.

I'm not sure how to get the depression out of the muscle memory, but i do know we need to do a better job of getting people away from their trauma.

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#129
I hate to be that guy but 2020 has been one of the best years of my life. My girlfriend and I moved out of our 600 sq/ft apt Oakland apartment for Colorado. We now have a good sized house with a large garage for wood working and my new found love of tig welding. It's honestly more walkable/bikable here than Oakland. My car is unlocked with things people could steal in it right now and I don't have anxiety about it.
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