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Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

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Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#81

I don't felt the need to see a doctor about what I'm experiencing, so I'm not sure if what I have qualifies as depression. But over the past several months, it feels like my entire personality and being is a rug that has been pulled out from underneath me. I'm no longer the driven and interested person that I used to be. I struggle to sit down and work - my brain feels scattered and no matter how much I sleep and res…

>So is that depression? Yep, but the cause in your case is unknown. For example, it could be work burnout causing it. It could be not going outside that is causing it. It could be not socializing that is causing it. It could be your diet. It could be ... If you can identify the cause you can find a solution. Unfortunately, the best most people have is a shotgun approach where they try a combination of solutions attem…

Great advice. I would add that another strategy that has been useful to many is that when you are feeling negative emotions stirring up uncontrollably, it’s important to remember they aren’t real. They are just feelings. At the end of the day all you have is your body, mind, health and wealth. However you feel about those things will change quite a bit throughout the average persons lifetime. What matters today might not matter tomorrow.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#83

Wow what happened to all the normal people? I am not depressed and never have been depressed. Life has never been easier or safer for most people and we have a poll result where 2/3rd of people are claiming to be clinically depressed?

Exactly my thoughts. I thought this place had become more negative, but I'm still shocked at the results. Perhaps it's time to move on and find more positive technology communities. You don't happen to know any?

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#85

Wow what happened to all the normal people? I am not depressed and never have been depressed. Life has never been easier or safer for most people and we have a poll result where 2/3rd of people are claiming to be clinically depressed?

These polls are self selecting. People round here aren’t into polls generally (evidenced by that the feature is largely unknown) and probably rarely respond to them. An exception to that is when the poll positives speak directly to something you care deeply about and identify strongly with. On top of that people who are going through this may be inclined to share not least because it’s always comforting to those going through an issue to know that they aren’t alone.

In sum, this poll is more an opportunity to share and participate in discussion about this issue than it is about determining the proportion of hn readers who are dealing with this issue

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#86
I can say "not at all", but mostly because I had a depressive bout that absolutely haunted me for multiple years when I was in High School.

Every day, my daydreams would be about whether or not today was the day I'd decide to kill myself to end my misery. The hardest part was finding a way to kill myself without hurting those I did care about: my family. Any way I gamed a suicide: it would result in somebody in my family blaming them-self, or someone else, over it. And I didn't want to die like that.

I don't really remember when it started. I know my first serious suicidal thought freaked me out (to the point where I cried myself to sleep that night). But I also know that it didn't take very long until I accepted the constant haunting of suicide as my everyday normal. The period lasted for years.

I must emphasize how _NORMAL_ depression feels when you have it. You wake up with it, you got to sleep with it, and then tomorrow morning you wake up with it again. You learn to live with it. You forget what life was like before you had depression.

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I don't have any advice for people in depression. All I can say is that I somehow climbed out of it and absolutely don't have it anymore. If I knew how it happened, then I'd tell you. But as far as I can tell, it was just dumb luck.

I do have advice for people who are worried about someone with depression however. You cannot convince them that their feelings of depression are "non-normal". Depression is just with you, its something you carry in that period, just how you live your life. The concept that you could even possibly shed the feelings is boggling.

If you want to talk about depression, with someone who has depression, then you cannot treat it as if it were "special" or "exotic". Depression is just every-day life for someone with depression. Telling someone that they can "get rid of depression" would be like saying... you don't have to poop anymore. It just doesn't "make sense" on any level when you have depression. I mean, yeah, life would be better if I didn't have to poop all the time, but I expect that I'll have to poop tomorrow.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#87

I don't felt the need to see a doctor about what I'm experiencing, so I'm not sure if what I have qualifies as depression. But over the past several months, it feels like my entire personality and being is a rug that has been pulled out from underneath me. I'm no longer the driven and interested person that I used to be. I struggle to sit down and work - my brain feels scattered and no matter how much I sleep and res…

Those are without a doubt some clear symptoms of depression. Two VERY VERY IMPORTANT THINGS:

1) A good first step is to see your GP, if you have one, and if you don't look up some reviews and find a decent one. If you're at the point where you lack the motivation to even do that, ask a friend or loved one to do it for you. If you don't have a resource like that around you, just click this link & put in your own zip code: https://www.healthgrades.com/usearch?what=General%20Medical%...

You see a GP first because they should run something like a complete metabolic panel along with tests for things like vitamin D levels. It's entirely possible to get mis-diagnosed with (psychological) depression when there is a more concrete metabolic cause.

Other readers, please please don't downvote this next part for language, use of caps, etc., this is seriously important

2) About it never going away. Oh hell that's the feeling all right. But here's the thing about a depressed brain telling you things: IT IS A FUCKING LIAR. Your mind tells you that, so you feel worse, and it feels even harder to over come, and the spiral continues. You CAN feel better. It might honestly be the hardest thing you ever do, but you have to claw back up inch by inch. Shit, inches can be hard at times. Go for millimeters when you need to. When you get pushed back down at times, IT'S TEMPORARY. Just keep taking that tiny step in front of you. One. Tiny. Step. Motivation is hard. Doing things you liked before is hard. Focus on doing small things. Focus on finding 5 minutes, or one minute, of distraction from your headspace at a time. A good simple technique is to overload your physical senses: 1) Light a candle/spray some scent 2) Put on some background noise-- music, anything 3) Fill a glass (real glass to conduct the cold) to the top with ice, and ANYTHING carbonated. If you don't do soda, go for seltzer or something. Wrap your hands around the cold glass. Keep it near your lips & take sips. You've got all 5 senses covered: Smell, sound, touching the cold, hearing the fizz of the bubbles, the taste as you sip & sensation of the carbonation. You're brain does have a bandwidth limit, and hitting all 5 senses saturates a lot of it. An ice-cold shower is also good. These things aren't silver bullets, aren't a cure: You're looking to get incremental periods of time where you don't feel like crap. Over time, they can build, and get easier. Look for other small 5 minute distractions that take you out of your head, whatever works. Getting out of this is a game of inches.

Finally: NONE of #2 replaces treatment. It's a single coping mechanism that can work to take the slightest edge off things. Therapy, medication if needed, those should be on your list for consideration. Maybe check out the DBSA: https://www.dbsalliance.org/support/ Groups are everywhere, and if that's not your thing or none are actually near you, they do daily online meetings. Talk or not, or just take it in. Sometimes knowing it's not just you can help, but you'll also hear how other people cope with this. A good inventory of coping mechanisms to take the edge off is very important.

IT WON'T LAST FOREVER. YOU CAN FEEL BETTER.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#88
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>So is that depression? Yep, but the cause in your case is unknown. For example, it could be work burnout causing it. It could be not going outside that is causing it. It could be not socializing that is causing it. It could be your diet. It could be ... If you can identify the cause you can find a solution. Unfortunately, the best most people have is a shotgun approach where they try a combination of solutions attem…

This is a kind and thoughtful reply. I would push back on the notion that there has to be a cause for depression. Maybe there is, but it can lead to the dangerous conclusion that it’s somehow one’s fault, when it’s actually a maladaptive behavioral state; a disease. Fully agree with your advice to talk to a professional.

Thanks.

I see how that could be a concern. To address it, there can be causality without fault. Fault is a kind of blame. Blame is when you take out a timeline and put your finger down on an arbitrary part and say, "It's because of this." and fault is taking that arbitrary point and reducing the event down into actors by saying, "It's because of you everything went wrong."

Looking closely, fault provides no benefit. You can grow and improve by looking at causality. You can learn why someone did what they did and learn from that, which is far more beneficial than the overly reductionist fault. Fault as a default is a lazy way of thinking. Instead we can see the ignorance in ones decision, or the defensiveness in ones decision when they assume another was being harmful to them (eg arguing or retaliation), or we can see the short sighted selfishness in some rare situations (eg, narcissism). Fault is not necessary. It's a hindrance towards a higher resolution view and from that greater awareness comes greater learning capacity, a heightened wisdom, and possibly even heightened intelligence.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#89

Wow what happened to all the normal people? I am not depressed and never have been depressed. Life has never been easier or safer for most people and we have a poll result where 2/3rd of people are claiming to be clinically depressed?

Exactly my thoughts. I thought this place had become more negative, but I'm still shocked at the results. Perhaps it's time to move on and find more positive technology communities. You don't happen to know any?

I have pretty much moved on from HN. It used to be the place to learn first hand from people doing amazing things in tech, these days it seems to be a nest of negative nut jobs whining about how hard their life is while holding 6 figure desk jobs.

Yes I know you are not supposed to mourn for the old HN, but I do. I feel like HN should purge the last 5 years of posts and start again.

Re: Poll: Have you experienced depressive symptoms over the past two weeks?

#90

Wow what happened to all the normal people? I am not depressed and never have been depressed. Life has never been easier or safer for most people and we have a poll result where 2/3rd of people are claiming to be clinically depressed?

With respect, which planet do you live on where a pandemic that is killing millions and putting millions more out of work, confining people globally to their houses and murdering some large swathes of the economy for an invisible disease is the same as an 'easier & safer life for most people'.

The K-shaped recovery is a real bubble, don't get caught in either side, they're both blind.

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