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Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by vmception »

generalizations wrote: post #21
Gys wrote: post #12

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Wow, thanks!

No prob. Scihub opens a whole new world.

I always wished Scihub had a browse feature

It relies on knowing what paywall I want to circumvent with some paper's ID

When really I just want to browse

I'm not in academia and I feel like everyone salivating over Scihub don't realize this use case, because they already know what publications they don't have access to

Since its almost 10 years after Scihub launched, is there a chrome extension or other wrapper for to make browsing easy on it, or some app that indexes newly released papers from a variety of journals and auto generates the scihub link equivalent?

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by kevinmchugh »

vmception wrote: post #31
generalizations wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No prob. Scihub opens a whole new world.

I always wished Scihub had a browse feature It relies on knowing what paywall I want to circumvent with some paper's ID When really I just want to browse I'm not in academia and I feel like everyone salivating over Scihub don't realize this use case, because they already know what publications they don't have access to Since its almost 10 years after Scihub launched, is there a chrome extension or other wrapper for t…

I use Google scholar to find interesting papers and scihub to read them.

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by ineedasername »

op03 wrote: post #30
ineedasername wrote: post #28

"Generally, our actions are subject to a speed-accuracy trade-off: the faster you do something, the less accurate you tend to be" And interesting edge-case where that isn't true are professional athletes. Maybe in the plant world the equivalent would be kudzu [0]. It has the speed thing down without issue, and as for accuracy... well, you grow like it does, you're hitting every target. It's about as close to a sci-fi…

I don't know if athletes fit. They spend their whole day in training to stay accurate. And thanks for the cool kudzu article!

They spend their whole day in training to stay accurate

That's what I mean-- for some, there's a way to overcome the speed-accuracy trade-off with extreme effort.

And yeah, kudzu is crazy. I remember seeing it in the south (US) when I had family there as a kid and thinking "wow, that place must have been abandoned like 50 years ago". Then I found out about kudzu not long ago & was amazed.

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by [deleted] »

slavik81 wrote: post #26
dalbasal wrote: post #19

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Considering that they photosynthesize, photosensitivity doesn't seem like that much of a leap.

If you have photosynthesis, you already have photosensitivity. The process of photosynthesis will cause chemical gradients in the reaction's inputs and outputs (and those of secondary reactions) that indicate where the plant senses light. Exactly how those are leveraged, I don't know, but based on hanging out with folks who study this for a few years, I'm going to bet it's very complicated and somehow involves auxin.…

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Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by eusebius »

ineedasername wrote: post #34
op03 wrote: post #30

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I don't know if athletes fit. They spend their whole day in training to stay accurate. And thanks for the cool kudzu article!

They spend their whole day in training to stay accurate That's what I mean-- for some, there's a way to overcome the speed-accuracy trade-off with extreme effort. And yeah, kudzu is crazy. I remember seeing it in the south (US) when I had family there as a kid and thinking "wow, that place must have been abandoned like 50 years ago". Then I found out about kudzu not long ago & was amazed.

Kudzu is certainly incredible, but other invasive species in the southeast US (where I live ) are nearly as impressive. Wisteria comes to mind; it's not as obvious until it's in bloom. Other honorable mentions: Chinese privet, Asian Bittersweet, elaeagnus, and English Ivy. All of the aforementioned grow in my yard and their aggressive growth is unbelievable (especially elaeagnus... It's a shrub that can climb like a vine!).

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by generalizations »

vmception wrote: post #31
generalizations wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No prob. Scihub opens a whole new world.

I always wished Scihub had a browse feature It relies on knowing what paywall I want to circumvent with some paper's ID When really I just want to browse I'm not in academia and I feel like everyone salivating over Scihub don't realize this use case, because they already know what publications they don't have access to Since its almost 10 years after Scihub launched, is there a chrome extension or other wrapper for t…

I had the same response when I first got started with it. Thing is, that's not what it was designed for. There's tons of other resources to use when actually researching; scihub just makes sure that what you find, you can access.

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by fourthark »

russianbandit wrote: post #32

So, the pea grew faster towards a thinner support, but why does that mean it grew less accurate?

I think the argument was that it’s easier to grasp a thin support, so the pea needs less accuracy.

It wasn’t spelled out in the article or its reference, from what I could tell.

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by Siira »

vmception wrote: post #31
generalizations wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No prob. Scihub opens a whole new world.

I always wished Scihub had a browse feature It relies on knowing what paywall I want to circumvent with some paper's ID When really I just want to browse I'm not in academia and I feel like everyone salivating over Scihub don't realize this use case, because they already know what publications they don't have access to Since its almost 10 years after Scihub launched, is there a chrome extension or other wrapper for t…

I think you can browse the papers via the libgen interface: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

Re: Plants can grow quickly or accurately, but not both

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Post by vmception »

generalizations wrote: post #37
vmception wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wished Scihub had a browse feature It relies on knowing what paywall I want to circumvent with some paper's ID When really I just want to browse I'm not in academia and I feel like everyone salivating over Scihub don't realize this use case, because they already know what publications they don't have access to Since its almost 10 years after Scihub launched, is there a chrome extension or other wrapper for t…

I had the same response when I first got started with it. Thing is, that's not what it was designed for. There's tons of other resources to use when actually researching; scihub just makes sure that what you find, you can access.

I’ve seen more contrived services that combine two or three things for more convenience

Would be surprising for someone not to do this with scihub yet

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