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That's what Google is organizationally unable to understand. They consider you giving them all your data to be a perfectly private thing to do. In fact, in a way, they consider themselves to be sort of guardians of your privacy, since they only look at it themselves and don't let anybody else take advantage of it. To anyone outside Google this not what "privacy" means, of course, but that's the internal mantra. I don…
> If I have to pay, I'll pay for Apple iCloud instead, since it has better integration with my devices. If you ever, for whatever reason, stop using Apple devices, can you continue using your iCloud storage from other devices? If not, that'd be a deal breaker for me.
Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing
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Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing
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Is google mining photos for profit? What kind of profits are there to mine data in google photos?
I would be very surprised if Google is not data mining everything they can, it's always been their main business model. With the photos it could be as simple as merging the meta data from those photos together with a user profile for even more targeted advertising. Somebody making a lot of photos of certain things might be more interested in buying these things. I'm pretty sure the real data wizards can think of quit…
I believe they can't do that without explicitly stating such usage of data in terms of service.
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Their situation of having to pay $24 a year?
My friends have at least 1TB. My one buddy who was the biggest google advocate has 10TB+. He moved all his photos there and deleted them off harddrives etc.
Photos you've already uploaded remain free.
In fact I believe photos uploaded until some time next year still won't count towards your storage.
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what is the privacy loss outcome that you are suggesting has happened as a result of photos being disclosed to algorithms?
use your imagination. Sheesh this is such a boring line of questioning that borders on disingenuous and obtuse for a social news site that caters to people in AdTech.
You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot, by using HN for political and ideological battle, flaming other users, and so on. We've had to warn you about this many times:
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Would you please fix this? The intended use of the site is curious, thoughtful conversation. I'm not going to ban you right now because (not counting the last week) you've posted good, on-topic comments too. But if you continue along the same lines we're going to have to.
Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing
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Something like that functionality-wise, but it's still more than Glacier ($16 vs $22 for ~4TB).
No egress charges, so it's cheaper than Glacier for some use cases.
That's true. I want more of a "store and very rarely retrieve" however, and there's no sub-$10/month service for 2-3TB yet.
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I've bought a Synology NAS which comes with a builtin Synology Moments application. It's pretty much a self-hosted Google Photos (including web gallery, sharing and mobile app which autobackups directly to your NAS). I still use Google Photos for convenience sake, but having a safe copy owned by myself on harddrives I own by myself is still worthwhile. And setup was very easy - couple of clicks on web UI to enable th…
Which model did you get? I've thought about one for a while, but the prices seem more entry level business than personal.
I used a lowend ds213j for along time but now I've upgraded to 218+ (I think there's now 220 as well?) because I wanted btrfs, hardware transcoding for Plex and ability to run some of my stuff in docker.
Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing
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As I understood it, it is only free for previous Pixel owners until they buy a new Pixel. So it is free for the lifetime of the device, not the users lifetime.
Isn't that how most people would have understood the offer anyways? Why should Google store the photos from e.g. your new OnePlus for free just because you owned a Pixel in the past?
Presumably because they promised the service in return for the purchase of a Pixel device, not its continued use.
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#248I honestly can't see the outrage here. Sure, they've closed their free tier, but they keep up the promise for Pixel owners and do not count images previously uploaded. That's really more than one can ask for in something they get for free .
Has anyone cracked the "DRM" on this? Can I just install a hacked app and have it think I'm a pixel owner? Does it just use the EXIF headers to identify the device?
Why risk getting your Google account banned?
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I would be very surprised if Google is not data mining everything they can, it's always been their main business model. With the photos it could be as simple as merging the meta data from those photos together with a user profile for even more targeted advertising. Somebody making a lot of photos of certain things might be more interested in buying these things. I'm pretty sure the real data wizards can think of quit…
I believe they can't do that without explicitly stating such usage of data in terms of service.
Very well paid teams of lawyers have spent considerable time and effort writing these terms of services. In the case of Google there is so much of this stuff, for all the different services, that Google doesn't even have a single conclusive ToS document, but instead a whole website [0]
Good luck finding anything explicitly stated in there.
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Can't upvote that enough times. Funny how the truth hurts sometimes. Thanks for the link.
I like the comic and it's definitely hilarious, and but it's not necessarily an apt comparison. Imagine the same situation with a bank holding your money. Are you paying them? (I assume you're not... I guess if you are, you probably shouldn't be.) Does that mean they're not in the business of storing your money and should be able to just give it away if you don't claim it in a month?
Interest rates are b/c a bank can invest your money. They differ from, say, a gold storage company that keeps your gold secure but has no right to invest or otherwise trade it.