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Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by andysch »

dimator wrote: post #176
smt88 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about LineageOS with a non-Google app store?

I've been trying this, and let me tell you, the user experience is absolutely terrible. The Play store and what it gives you is incredibly hard to live without, unless you really just want to use your phone for texting, browsing, and calling. If you're a minimalist, then great. If you're accustomed to what a smartphone can do, not so great. The alternative app stores are full of unimpressive, small scale apps. Dozens…

this seems like what they did on the iodé phone,

Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by pjmlp »

nitrogen wrote: post #151
bashinator wrote: post #130

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Didn’t Canonical try to do something like this?

It sounds a lot like Nokia's Maemo, which was doomed by a lack of investment, subsequent renaming to ugly-sounding names, and bouncing back and forth between orgs after Microsoft's agent provocateur sabotaged Nokia's phone division.

Correction, Nokia board did that to themselves after hiring Elop and having a contract that would give him a nice bonus if he managed to do what he naturally end up doing.

As much as FOSS crowd loves to hate Microsoft, better get the facts right.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stephen-elop-to-get-25-5m-f...

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Post by joezydeco »

izacus wrote: post #14
geogra4 wrote: post #3

I wish Microsoft didn't kill windows mobile. The Android monopoly is terrible

Why would Microsoft help here? Windows has bunch of telemetry too.

Put a Pi-Hole on a network with a Win10 machine. Marvel at how much network traffic comes out of this box when it's sleeping.

Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by nunodonato »

geogra4 wrote: post #3

I wish Microsoft didn't kill windows mobile. The Android monopoly is terrible

I'm usually on the "anti" microsoft side, but owned a Lumia and it was the best smartphone to date! That thing was so fluid and intuitive, simple and well designed. I miss it!

Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by qz2 »

generalizations wrote: post #168
qz2 wrote: post #138

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I live in London U.K. and have done 400 miles this year. Decided I’m going to get rid of the car in the new year. That solves the problem :)

You city people with your public transit. :D Doesn't really work when half the people I know live more than an hour's drive away.

Not just that. I’m a miserable sod who likes my own company :)

Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by andysch »

hereme888 wrote: post #10

Ever heard of NetGuard? With it I block all relevant outgoing and incoming connections to doubleclick, google analytics, my carrier (t-mobile), app-measurements, facebook, etc... The phone attempts connection to one of these just about every second, and I block them all. Hopefully the Librem phones will continue to mature and become my future phone.

Does Netguard require to be rooted? Does it show the traffic per app?

Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by e_proxus »

Silhouette wrote: post #170
aboringusername wrote: post #46

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The answer here has been obvious for many years. Clearly, there is a conflict of interest in having an organization interested in selling ads to also make one of the worlds most widely used operating systems. So we break them up. We regulate their conduct, we interrogate their business and ensure there is no apparent conflicts of interest going on. Mobile OS solutions LTD would develop Android OS, wouldn't unduly fav…

How is Mobile OS Solutions Ltd going to make money in this scenario?

MOS could license their software to handset manufacturers. Or charge apps a fee for using their services such as a software store, hosting etc.

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Post by celsoazevedo »

chrisseaton wrote: post #29
CodeGlitch wrote: post #24

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But your phone is still connecting out to the internet and therefore using your data allowance.

I think most people have basically unlimited data these days, and I'm sure nobody is worrying about the cost of a DNS request.

Most people I know don't have unlimited data. My plan, for example, gives me 10GB/month. In any case, DNS queries shouldn't be a problem for most users.

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Post by Kudos »

meowfly wrote: post #156
smt88 wrote: post #142

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What about LineageOS with a non-Google app store?

I'm currently using LineageOS and I'm not going to use it in the future. The issue I have is that unlocking my phone creates a security trade off that doesn't seem better than the privacy gains. I'm more afraid of losing my phone and someone replaces the bootloader than I am of telemetry. I really have enjoyed the LineageOS and it's been great to have a phone that isn't as dumb as a flip phone but doesn't have all th…

Can't you lock the bootloader again after flashing a new rom?

Re: Google sued: Idle Android eats mobile data to send telemetry and preload ads

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Post by lanfeust6 »

luord wrote: post #93

Between this and Jeffrey Paul's article shared yesterday about Big Sur and Apple Silicon[1], it's becoming increasingly tempting to throw my phone away and keep using only Linux with no applications primarily developed by these giants (i.e. no Chromium, etc). Supporting initiatives like the Librem phone is also moving up in my list of priorities, once I get enough money to spare at least. [1]: https://news.ycombinato…

I ordered my Pinephone this month and patiently awaiting it. Despite what may currently be lacking, it's in a good enough place to be a daily driver for myself.

My Blackberry Q10 served me well for years but the battery is starting to go and the OS + apps are no longer supported. I can actually say I've skipped Android/iOS entirely.

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