Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by davnicwil » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 3:12 PM UTC

Intel's disruption is now complete
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Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by dboreham » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:33 PM UTC

What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device? Better fab process? ARM ISA is fundamentally faster?

Graph conveniently omits AMD who now beat Intel using the same ISA but different process.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by jibcage » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:34 PM UTC

I’m curious to see if Apple will bring anything similarly disruptive to the server market. So far servers haven’t been their strong suit, but a chip this attractive could change things.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by pfortuny » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:34 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #2

What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device? Better fab process? ARM ISA is fundamentally faster? Graph conveniently omits AMD who now beat Intel using the same ISA but different process.

I guess their sharp focus on phones and tablets led them to think... Hey, this is so powerful we might... And they indeed could.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by voodootrucker » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:34 PM UTC

Thank goodness. They haven't innovated in decades and x86 is a mess. I can't wait until RISC-V does the same to ARM. It's super frustrating to see America, which used to be innovative become the complacent corrupt incumbent.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:35 PM UTC

It doesn't look good for Intel but this isn't the first time, so we'll see.

But AMD is dominating them now on one front, and now a major customer of theirs makes their own chips which on the surface seem to be better.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by jibcage » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:36 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #2

What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device? Better fab process? ARM ISA is fundamentally faster? Graph conveniently omits AMD who now beat Intel using the same ISA but different process.

Apple has a greater incentive to optimize their chips for power performance because of their smaller devices (not just the phone, but the watch too).

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by chrisseaton » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:37 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #2

What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device? Better fab process? ARM ISA is fundamentally faster? Graph conveniently omits AMD who now beat Intel using the same ISA but different process.

> What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device?

Motivation to do so.

Intel had none.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by skohan » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:38 PM UTC

jibcage wrote: post #3

I’m curious to see if Apple will bring anything similarly disruptive to the server market. So far servers haven’t been their strong suit, but a chip this attractive could change things.

It would seem really out of character for Apple to make a move in the server space.

Re: Intel's disruption is now complete

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Post by trevyn » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:39 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #2

What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device? Better fab process? ARM ISA is fundamentally faster? Graph conveniently omits AMD who now beat Intel using the same ISA but different process.

>What's the real reason Apple can design a higher performance device?

Everyone else with the immediate capability are professional ball-droppers.