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Sadly this isn't true. I can't register to download my electric bill without a google, facebook or twitter account. Electric companies are local monopolies so I can't switch to another supplier either.
My email account still belongs to google, so I can't claim that this makes any difference in my life. It's a bit disturbing nonetheless.
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See also: Kindle books; movies "purchased" from Amazon, Apple, et al; Tesla upgrades you paid extra for; I could go on....
I have yet to hear about the first amazon account ban. I don’t think they’re really interested in that, since the accounts are almost by definition making them a bunch of money.
Who has changed the the title of the HN submission? It was "Never use Google to sign in" and it's still that when following the link. According to submission rules it should not redacted.
In the article I clearly call out that using any third-party is a risk, so I don't see a reason why the moderator felt the need to say that in the submission title as well.
To add to this: Never use a @gmail.com address, buy your own domain and pay the $6/mo to get a Google GSuite with your name@fullname.com address instead. If Google locks your account, you can now move your email hosting to another provider and won't lose access to your entire digital world. Be aware that doing this now means your DNS provider and domain registrar become vectors for hackers to take over your email acc…
The risk of getting your account locked is just one of the reasons you shouldn't use Google (and the like) to sign in. But how did we end up in this horrible state of authentication? Why don't we have something as easy to use as the DNS, but for authentication? Imagine what authentication would look like, if we all started running is the same direction, instead of implementing our own authentication again and again.…
> which proves that this is possible. How does it prove that?
And it works.
It's a bold choice of words, I acknowledge that. And the proof is only as strong as my abilities to write software.
This is yet another reason why Promise needs a movement behind it. To strengthen the proof. To strengthen security.
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I don't want more accounts and passwords. The security seems strictly worse than just authenticating against my email provider directly.
There's no good reason not to use a password manager in 2020. I recommend this one: https://www.passwordstore.org/
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Because a house is significantly more important than an email address. I get being extremely online but let's not be silly here. Plus that email/account is hardly even "yours" in a serious way. Anyone on the HN has a very simple fix for all these problems: get an email in your domain and a password manager for all the accounts. There, solved. You could even still use Gmail with their Google Apps, G Suite, Workplace o…
Put simply, one's house is literally on their own property, and one's Gmail account is literally on Google's property. If someone owned a vast amount of land, more than needed for everyone on earth to build a house, and the owner told people they could freely build structures but you lose it if you break the rules and the rules can change any time...
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> I'm honestly not sure where we went so wrong as a society so as to reach this point... Why? The answer is actually very simple: spam. AFAIK pretty much all disabled Google accounts come from Google believing they are part of a spam-sending (or malware-spreading) network. The ability to sign up for free Google accounts means this is a prime target for spammers to use and abuse -- signing up for free Gmail/Drive acco…
it's incredibly rare to personally know someone it happened to I don't know anyone who has a degree in History but that doesn't mean historians are especially unusual. All it means is that my network is quite small. The same is true here. The fact few people know someone who has been affected by this problem doesn't mean the problem is unusual. It just means there are hundreds of millions of people who use Google and…
So... incredibly rare, really.
The original HN post was titled Never Use Google to Sign In. Did HN change the title?
- OP