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Empathy and perspective taking: How social skills are built

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Re: Empathy and perspective taking: How social skills are built

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Someone should develop an AI to automatically add emojis to our communications ;)

I wonder if technology won't actually help us ameliorate this issue. Improvements in video communication — availability, ease of use, quality, ubiquity — make establishing empathetic connections easier. And there's a lot of room for improvement! (Latency is my biggest pet peeve.)

The hologram comms from Star Wars popped in my mind :)

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It is far more common than you think. Nearly half of everyone acts this way. More than 3/4 if you add "to some extent". But many of most of them can be "rationally compassionate".

Not sure which part of my comment is “more common than I think” but I’m pretty sure 3/4s of the population doesn’t have autism or a similar developmental issue. As a note, I don’t personally have autism, my issue is different, but I share a significant number of traits with those who do.

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> I then attempt to do the proper things to make that happen. Society tells us that this way of handling interpersonal interaction is manipulative and evil.

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Re: Empathy and perspective taking: How social skills are built

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This article is like a biological description of how muscles grow. People interested in getting stronger will benefit more from an exercise plan. They still have to exercise, but at least they'll know what to do. If your interest is developing your empathy and other social skills, the answer is through practice, as with any other performance-based skills. You can develop empathy with practice, just like charisma, pat…

I like what you offer, but your website could use some work. The video and annoying (2 times?) sign up dialogs are not responsive on my phone. Meant as constructive feedback.

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I'm wondering why empathy is such a hot topic... , I don't think our goal is to empathize more with other people. Really liked the point Paul Bloom made with his book about Rational Compasion: https://www.amazon.com/Against-Empathy-Case-Rational-Compass... We should be able to understand how smb feels, not feel the same. Personally, I'm quite interested in why/when people are synchronizing their movements. Shameless…

Let's say a friend tells you their mother has died. You respond, "You must be very sad. What are you doing this weekend?"

Your friend gets upset. Why? You understood what they were saying and acknowledged how they were feeling. What more is there to do?

Does that hit home? If not, switch roles, so that your friend is the insensitive person who does understand how you feel, but doesn't feel the same way, because it's not their mother. Being able to be sad for a friend, for their loss, not yours, is a basic human capability, and refusing to exercise it when it is called for is indeed callous and insensitive.

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A good related book is "How to win Friends and Influence people". Basically its a guide how to make friends, with a realization that we live in a world full of selfish people, that are self centered and don't have much empathy. This is the default state of human beings. I watched an interview with Pol Pot and even he thought of himself as a good guy. Quick Book Summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qvUYtwASqY Pol…

While it may be true that there are many selfish people, many aren't. Interpret the world as being packed with wankers and in your mind you deny people the chance to be anything else. I had a relative like that, he wasn't a nice person.

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A good related book is "How to win Friends and Influence people". Basically its a guide how to make friends, with a realization that we live in a world full of selfish people, that are self centered and don't have much empathy. This is the default state of human beings. I watched an interview with Pol Pot and even he thought of himself as a good guy. Quick Book Summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qvUYtwASqY Pol…

I’ve taken these classes and it comes down to “be someone you aren’t in order to make conversation”

It just feels so fake and scripted. I can easily tell in a business setting when people are just putting on their Dale Carnegie hat.

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Can you empathize with genius beyond your comrehension, or is this just a downward relationship, and does doing so make you a peer? Can you empathize with objective evils like sadism or cruelty without becoming a party to it? It raises the question of what it is, really.

The popular emphasis on empathy seems to reduce to a secular political idea, where the more traditional value of compassion is more of a theological concept. When I read appeals to empathy, I see appeals to a secular morality that originates in the material idea of progress, which while not necessarily negative, it's not above criticism either.

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I'm wondering why empathy is such a hot topic... , I don't think our goal is to empathize more with other people. Really liked the point Paul Bloom made with his book about Rational Compasion: https://www.amazon.com/Against-Empathy-Case-Rational-Compass... We should be able to understand how smb feels, not feel the same. Personally, I'm quite interested in why/when people are synchronizing their movements. Shameless…

From https://www.grammarly.com/blog/empathy-sympathy/

- Empathy is a term we use for the ability to understand other people’s feelings as if we were having them ourselves.

- Sympathy refers to the ability to take part in someone else’s feelings, mostly by feeling sorrowful about their misfortune.

I think you may have confused the terms.

Re: Empathy and perspective taking: How social skills are built

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A good related book is "How to win Friends and Influence people". Basically its a guide how to make friends, with a realization that we live in a world full of selfish people, that are self centered and don't have much empathy. This is the default state of human beings. I watched an interview with Pol Pot and even he thought of himself as a good guy. Quick Book Summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qvUYtwASqY Pol…

I’ve taken these classes and it comes down to “be someone you aren’t in order to make conversation” It just feels so fake and scripted. I can easily tell in a business setting when people are just putting on their Dale Carnegie hat.

You can also think of it as "make an effort to act in a way others enjoy".

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Someone should develop an AI to automatically add emojis to our communications ;)

I wonder if technology won't actually help us ameliorate this issue. Improvements in video communication — availability, ease of use, quality, ubiquity — make establishing empathetic connections easier. And there's a lot of room for improvement! (Latency is my biggest pet peeve.)

Would be interesting to experiment with a forum that only works with video. Particularly if the video recorder starts when you are playing a 'comment' and captures your realtime reaction/response interaction with the content. Then you have the option to upload or nah.

Then on playback the forum synchronizes all of these clips so that it's one continuous experience. UX could be the active video playing while 3-4 live 'replies' silently stack up to the right and you just mouse over over the one you want to unmute (now) and roll into the conversation (next). Maybe your video is in there too so you can hover over it to indicate you want to reply.

Lastly the ability for everyone to grab clips and start threads from them would be interesting to help avoid the blab factor.

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